Fictional Science: 100 Glaring Logical Issues With Prometheus

Part 3: The Explanation of the Mission (0:15:00 – 0:23:00)

14. Why is Guy Pearce playing an extremely old man? The make-up is awful, the performance is hokey, and it’s all because Pearce is not Weyland’s actual age and has to overcompensate wildly. Why could they not hire an actual elderly actor. In fact, since Pearce’s old man voice sounds almost identical to legendary performer Malcolm McDowell, who happens to be much closer to Weyland’s actual age, why not just hire the actual Malcolm McDowell?

15. The position of hieroglyphic circles would not lead Prometheus to a specific spot in space. This is the explanation Dr. Holloway gives for how they found the planet, but there are multiple flaws in his reasoning. First, if these cave paintings really were separated by centuries, star coordinates and positions would be drastically different to each separate culture, as they move and change through time. Even then, five circles painted simplistically on a wall could never serve as actual cosmic coordinates to a tiny, minute section of space, because the universe is incredibly vast. That pattern of five circles would appear all over the Milky Way galaxy, let alone other galaxies. It’s not nearly specific enough to serve as a map.

16. What does Dr. Holloway mean by a “galactic system?” This is what he calls the place they are going, but he describes the system as a star similar to Earth’s sun with a nearby planet and moon. That would technically be called a solar system, like the one Earth exists in.

17. Odd syntax: “There seems to be a planet,” says Dr. Holloway, “but there is a moon capable of sustaining life.” Why can the crew’s interstellar scanners pick up minute details like a life-bearing moon with absolute certainty, but only ‘seem’ to show an entire planet?

18. Why does Dr. Shaw assert that the paintings are “an invitation?” It seems like a very broad assumption to make based on such a miniscule amount of evidence.

19. Why do Drs. Shaw and Holloway assume the tall creatures in the paintings are aliens? The only distinguishing characteristic about the so-called ‘aliens’ is that they are tall, and pointing at circles. Why do those circles have to be planets? Why do those beings have to be aliens? What makes Shaw and Holloway think of such a thing in the first place, let alone assume it to be undeniably true? Still, it’s not nearly as massive a logical leap as…

20. What reason does Dr. Shaw have to assert that the aliens “engineered us?” Here’s how the exchange goes in the film. “We call them engineers,” Shaw says. The geologist asks why. “They engineered us,” she replies. No further explanation is given. Shaw simply makes the ridiculously cavernous leap from ‘cave paintings with stars’ to ‘we have found the origin of all life on Earth.’ She has not a shred of evidence – not even a little detail that suggests her larger conjecture – to prove this, and yet she asserts it as absolute fact. When the Geologist continues to grill her on the point, as any sane person would, she has no answers, no evidence, no shred of logical reasoning to explain why the entire history of human scientific theory is now null and void. All she says is “It is what I choose to believe.” Which is infuriating, and leads me to my next point…

21. How can Elizabeth Shaw be considered an actual scientist when “It is what I choose to believe” is her only reason behind a trillion dollar interstellar voyage? That’s not science. That’s not even logic. Believing wholeheartedly in something without a shred of proof is closer to religion, and even then, most faiths can point to some real-world event that fuels their belief. Not Dr. Shaw. She’s just insane, and everyone around her goes along with it without batting an eyelash.

22. Who is the Prometheus sending messages to? Holloway, Shaw, and David discuss how they have had “no response” from the planet, but what was the message? Who were they sending it to? If they have never been to or mapped out the planet, how and where would they send it in the first place? Even digital messages need another digital receptacle. They can’t just be sent out into the ether in hopes of getting a response.

23. Holloway, David, and the script do not understand basic linguistic theory. David tells Holloway he can communicate with the aliens “provided your thesis is correct.” There is no possible way Holloway could formulate a thesis about alien language in the first place, and if he did, no expectation for it to be true. I assume his thesis is that the basis of human languages come from the engineers, which is not only completely and utterly unfounded and unverified by the film’s internal logic, but absolutely impossible in reality. The thesis supposes that humans must be taught how to communicate, or to have it instilled, but it’s actually a natural ability all humans possess. That is why we have had thousands of languages throughout history, even though, for a long time, humans from one part of the world could not communicate with humans from other parts. Even if that weren’t true, for Holloway’s thesis to be correct, all languages would have to have the exact same foundation, but they don’t. Chinese and English, for instance, are completely different. There is no possible way David could trace all human language back to one sole root and somehow learn to speak the Engineers’ language.

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  1. ILovePrometheussays:

    THIS IS PRETEND. Your first few issues are based on the idea that this movie is supposed to be relatable to REAL LIFE. It is it’s own thing. The cells reconnected with itself AND the environment, creating new life. THEY ARE FREAKING ALIENS their ships DO follow the laws of physics, we just don’t know HOW. Just because we didn’t see anything doesn’t mean it’s not there. Everything Dr. Shaw says is based on feeling. This is the most realistic part of the movie, having the characters say things that are NOT necessarily true. WHO CARES that all this guy wanted was money? If he can do the job, and do it well, does it matter?

    1. The film purports itself to exist in reality by using ‘hard’ science fiction concepts. It asks to be taken seriously, so I am taking it seriously, and in my opinion, it does not hold up to serious analysis. If you do not wish to analyze it this way, that is your prerogative. If you enjoy the film, more power to you. These are just logical issues that stood out to my co-writer Sean and I both times we watched and analyzed the film.

      And about this quote: “WHO CARES that all this guy wanted was money? If he can do the job, and do it well, does it matter?” We know the Geologist can NOT do his job well. That’s why he runs away from fossilized remains and gets himself killed. So yeah, not a very good choice of geologist, huh?

  2. ILovePrometheussays:

    Did you maybe think that they are planning on using Weyland in another movie as a younger character? AND THE LANGUAGE IS BASED ON OLD EARTH LANGUAGES GIVING THEM A REFERENCE THAT AN A.I. MOST LIKELY CAN INTERPRET. And the message to the moon? Seriously? it’s the damn future, who cares about digital?

    1. But saying “it’s the future” is not a reasonable explanation. Laws of physics still have to obeyed. Even if the Prometheus discovered how to communicate telepathically, they would have to know where to send those messages on the moon, and assume that the people on the moon can receive such messages.

      And on the language piece, read my entire explanation to see what I meant. It’s just not a viable theory under general understanding of linguistic development. Again, David and Holloway tell us that the Engineers must have taught early humans speech, which is A – inaccurate with our understanding of communication development, and B – disproven by variant language bases around the world. And, of course, Holloway would have no possible way to know that Engineers developed early speech just from a couple of cave painting of stars. With no evidence, how could he create a theory?

      1. I agree with many of your statements (event though you obviously had a hard time trying to finding 100 glaring(!) logical(!) issues), but some of your arguments are just humbug. You cannot criticise a movie about not obeying the laws of physics, while being just wrong in your statements concerning things like…physics. Like broadcasting messages. “they would have to know where to send those messages on the moon, and assume that the people on the moon can receive such messages”, I mean… Come on, seriously? If you go out with a walkie talkie, or any other wireless communication device, do you really think that you (or your device) have to know where the receiving end is? It finds it by broadcasting and interpreting possible reply signals 😉

        Sorry, but to me this is one of your “glaring logical issues” your article is strewn with. Live up to your own standards!

  3. maritaniasays:

    cool im ready to watch it now

    1. ApesMasays:

      Don’t let these people ruin it for you, pay better attention than they did and have fun figuring things out and making up your own theories.

  4. Sinteksays:

    wow your review f’ing sucks. I got to number 34 and then only 2 of your point made ANY sense at all, You do realize that the movie takes place 60 years from now and most of the stuff your talking about you HAVE absolutely 0 chance of knowing about, unless you can tell the future… liek the Windows on the Ship, How the F u c k do you know that in 60 years from now they wont have glass that can handle being in space, which by the way they already have glass windows on ships in space ( international space station) Apollo pick a number…

    1. ApesMasays:

      Not to mention that we see the glass is SHIELDED when they are in space, the glass is exposed when they have reached their destination.

  5. RELAX ITS JUST A MOVIE. YOU KNOW HOLLYWOOD? shit was a bad ass movie too (in a good way). I think the best movies are the ones that keep you guessing. I mean think if these events actually happened in real life? We’d be clueless as to what is going on

  6. Peter_Lorresays:

    I understand where you are coming from with some of these points, but just because not everything is 100% realistic doesn’t mean that it makes this movie “stupid”. I have interest to know what you thought of Alien, because there are plenty of errors in that movie as well, and even more questions that remained unanswered. I also took notice that the majority of your points can be answered if you dig deeper and analyze the film. I do hope you’ve seen it more than once. A film that actually makes you think instead of giving you the answers is a great film in my book, and just because this movie leaves a lot unexplained, isn’t that kind of the point? You, as the audience, are tasked with figuring out this story and presenting theories? I respect your opinion, but I really think you missed the point of it.

    1. As I say in the first page, it’s not about ambiguity or not getting answers to mysteries. I don’t care, for instance, that we don’t know exactly what the black goo does, or why David infects Holloway. Those are interesting ambiguities. The problem is when the storytelling gets sloppy, and holds the rest of the film back from being as good as it could be, in my opinion.

      I have seen the film three times, and watched some it a fourth to help verify points in this article.

      1. ApesMasays:

        The black goo restructures or reprograms DNA. It can make it dissolve and recombine to create new, microscopic life (the beginning), or it can be used as a weapon by mutating its host (the urns).
        David infects Holloway because Weyland is grasping at straws at that point ( he tells David to “try harder”). The Engineers he hoped could save him turned out to be long gone, and the only hope he had left was the goo David found. They had no idea what it would do, so Holloway became the test subject. It was a long shot, but he had no other hope left until they found the Engineer in stasis.

      2. Peter_Lorresays:

        I am curious: why does Fifield mutate into a Xenomorphic creature while Holloway begins to dissolve… or am I mixing things up?

      3. ApesMasays:

        If Holloway hadn’t been burned he would have eventually mutated into a murdeous Xenomorph-like creature like Fifield. He knew something terrible was happening to him, and Vickers was right to kill him.

      4. Peter_Lorresays:

        I have the belief that since, like the engineer in the beginning Holloway had consumed the liquid it would dissolve him. But I suppose I could be wrong. Thanks!

      5. ApesMasays:

        The liquid the Engineer in the beginning drank was quite different, it was filled with what looked like sparkly capsules. That’s why it had a different effect on him 🙂

      6. Peter_Lorresays:

        Oh cool…. thanks!

      7. Peter_Lorresays:

        I can respect what you’re saying and I’m glad you found those points interesting. It all makes sense, but I guess I like to think that, since this is a science fiction film, that certain things don’t need to be 100% accurate. Of course, maybe you’re right and Ridley Scott just didn’t deliver the best possible movie (or the writer). If you’ve seen some of the deleted scenes, those really add a lot to the story and expand a bit more on character depth (character depth, by the way, doesn’t always work for Ridley). But we can just agree that we see the movie differently and I’m glad I took the time to read your points.

      8. I agree the Deleted Scenes would have made the movie better. MAny of them are good. But since Scott did not include them, they are irrelevant to the film itself, which is flawed. As for not being 100% accurate, I don’t need that either, but I do need some level of accuracy, which to my mind, Prometheus doesn’t provide. I expect a certain standard from Sir Ridely Scott, because he is a great filmmaker, one of my favorites, and I know he has it in him to be better.

      9. Peter_Lorresays:

        Good points, thanks for sharing this conservation!

      10. Trekkersays:

        Well, let’s hope the new Blade Runner will be better. I certainly hope he gets David Peoples back for this one and not these two “writers” he used here.

      11. Vili Ionutsays:

        I agree with you. I haven’t seen the deleted scenes. But when you mentioned the accuracy, indeed Prometheus doesn’t provide it. For me to respect a movie that pretends to answer questions about what lead to the events in the sequels ,I feel the need for it not to be so ambiguous about certain facts (since that is the mission of the whole prequel… to answer questions ! not to raise more !)

      12. did you actually WATCH the movie 3 times, or did you merely spend 3 sessions searching for more vitriol?

      13. The difference being?

      14. one is actively searching for things to blow out of proportion, the other is taking in all aspects whether they be good or bad and weighing them against each other.

    2. studio460says:

      Peter said: ” . . . just because not everything is 100% realistic doesn’t mean that it makes this movie ‘stupid'”

      Yes, it does, IMO. The character issues make the suspension of disbelief, even for a die-hard Ridley Scott fan like me–impossible. In Ridley’s “Alien,” all characters were spot-on, and utterly believable.

      1. Peter_Lorresays:

        While I agree Ridley’s characters in Alien were much more believable and more developed in Alien, I still do not agree that the movie was stupid. I guess there’s something about that intrigues me more than Alien… I love Alien, bur Prometheus got me thinking more, and I like that.

    3. Alien was a horror film,it did it’s horror very well.Prometheus was a science fiction film,it did it’s sci-fi very badly.

  7. ApesMasays:

    This is ridiculous. One example:
    Q: Why does the Prometheus have glass panels?? These glass panels can’t stand up to interstellar speeds?
    A: Did you even watch the fucking movie? When they were in space the viewing windows were covered up and shielded before reaching their destination.

    1. robthomsays:

      99 to go…

  8. Uncle Larsays:

    I think this is terrific. I’ve been telling everyone since I saw the movie opening wknd that I was just stunned they would let the writers crew a trillion dollar mission with the most incompetent morons I’ve ever seen in a big budget sci-fi film. I cannot find a single one of your 100 points I can disagree with. I lost a huge amount of respect for Scot after seeing this film.

    1. Robsays:

      I second that.

      1. NEVER have I been so psyched to see a movie (Maybes Matrix 2+3).NEVER have I been so let down.

    2. Totally agree. Apart from a few actors the casting was terrible and most of the characters annoyed me… which highlighted how ridiculous this movie was.

  9. stansays:

    The answer to all the above is simple,they hired the wrong writer.
    Yes,not all things need explaining or need to be answered, but It isn’t what you do(or in this case what you don’t do) ,but how it is done. Linderlof is not a good or talented writer

  10. rompersays:

    oh silly jonathan, your flaw was to take this or any movie seriously, seriously. The dumbest group of misfits in search of first contact. It doesn’t end well. Thats all you need to know. Leave the anaylzing, cross referenceing, and speculative theories of ridley’s world to the geeks and nerds. Thats what they’re good at, its what they do.

  11. cranium7says:

    Easily the single most ignorant Prometheus bashing article I’ve read. I honestly dont believe you actually paid attention to a single minute of the film. You have no business writing movie based articles.

  12. SitBackAndEnjoysays:

    I stopped reading around number 10… Suspension of disbelief, my friend, is the answer to all of your dumbass questions.

  13. PsychoXsays:

    1 glaring issue with this entire article:Who cares? It’s a movie. Watch it and be entertained. That’s the sole reason for it’s existence. It is what it is.

  14. DanRemsays:

    All I read was “blah blah blah. I’m anal and butthurt because I don’t know how to pay attention to a film that provides most of those answers.” Did you even think about possibly re-watching it? You can’t watch this kind of film once and expect all the answers. I’m watching it for the 4th time and I’m still finding out shit. Nuff said.

    1. N'Gwa Gwasays:

      All I read from your reply was “Blah blah blah, I’m anal and butthurt because I’m too much of a peon to realize how bad my taste is”.

  15. DanRemsays:

    By the way, I’ll give you an answer just to be nice: #96: He knows how because he was watching the Engineer operate it! Why else would they focus so much on his beheaded head looking up at the Engineer with wonder and show the Engineer operating it? Attention to detail, bro.

    1. That would explain, at best, operating one small section of the ship. The thing is the size of a planet. Do you honestly believe there is no need for a crew of any sort to work in an engineering section, or on mechanics, or something like that? We saw the ship had a crew before. David would not know every intricacy of the ships. That’s preposterous.

      1. Ricky Riccardosays:

        Wait… YOU wrote this POS? You’re an idiot. Watch the movie again, pay attention this time, and then rewrite the article. If you have half a brain, you’ll be down to 10 or less.

  16. silent jsays:

    Excellent breakdown. You found more holes than most other articles based on the subject. While most items can come across a little nitpicky, it shows that if you took the time to research these fundamental flaws in natural laws then the writers could have easily done the same to make a tighter, more grounded film. If they read more into a textbook than Chariot of the Gods, those details could have been easily fixed. And while the audience can suspend their disbelief through many of the science aspects, overlooking terrible plotting and characterization is asking too much. With so little screen time given to supporting characters, they should be able to stick to the few details given about their nature without contradicting themselves in the next scene. It is just a movie, and it is meant to entertain, but that shouldn’t excuse tacked on suspense and horror that I can find achieved better from Syfy originals.
    Unfortunately, this list won’t achieve much. those who did not like the movie know why they didn’t, and those who did will defend it aggressively, calling detractors idiots who didn’t watch closely like “something” was missed that would put everything into perspective. That “something” is never elaborated upon. Some people really love this movie and that’s fine. they got more out of it than others and I’m glad they enjoyed it but some of us expected more from Ridley Scott coming back to the universe that both solidified him as a filmmaker and introduced us to the greatest movie monster ever made. And I’m not complaining that the movie needed more xenomorphs, although if that’s the established origin of their species then I was better off not knowing, but I came in expecting the same level of storytelling that made Alien one of my favorite movies of all time.
    Oh and I may have #101: How could David even play the flute? He’s an android and in no need of lungs or diaphram. I don’t believe the movie stated otherwise. How could he project the breath needed? If I’m wrong, please correct me. I only saw the movie once and have no plans to see it again.
    Side note: It really pisses me off that the DVD is advertised as “Questions Answered”. That just leads me to believe the film I saw was unfinished and they sold it to me anyway.

    1. Could not have said it better myself, Silent J. And thank you very much for pointing out the Flute issue. It has now been incorporated into the article!

    2. Trekkersays:

      There can be an explanation for David’s playing of the flute: Weyland wanted to build a completely lifelike android capable of human functions practical or impractical. He did mention him as the son he never had.
      Remember in Star Trek TNG, Dr Suun designed Data the same way.

    3. Large_Hadronsays:

      Let me add to point 7: 13 billion light years (age of the universe times the speed of light) is about 1.2*10^23 km. So 3.27×10^24km is about 25 times the size of the visible universe – a bit further than was necessary for any dramatic purpose.

  17. Guestsays:

    Wow, You’ve definitely “got this covered”. To the point where

  18. spacejockeyNDsays:

    Jonathan, the only 100 Glaring Logical Issues I see here are that YOU ACTUALLY took the time to nitpick through this wonderful film to point out all the problems, that seem to REALLY get under your skin. I will admit, there are some flaws in Prometheus, but not enough to warrant this outrageous attack. I believe you just ended up embarrassing yourself on this one here. Although I will say that I did find myself in hysterics around the halfway mark of reading this article, just for the image of you going through and taking your time to piece this all together, which is more than a little over the top…so not all of my time was wasted today. Prometheus is JUST a film, a science fiction film at that. Possibly you may want to stick to watching and writing about Romantic Comedies, or Chuck Lorre sitcoms, (Big Bang Theory possibly?)

  19. Stridersays:

    I can write 100 Glaring Logical Issues about this about this article, but no. Just, no.

    1. Do it then.Don’t talk waffle.

  20. What drivelsays:

    You’re article on plot holes is more ‘holey’ that the plot holes you are claiming exist. The strong impression here is that you were disappointed with your single viewing of the movie (which, I can understand) and have launched into trying to create an article about 100 plot holes, many of which, in my opinion, appear to be contrived by your lack of attention (and perhaps comprehension) of the movie. No doubt there were inconsistencies, and plot problems, but really – it’s a film. None of these holes seem to be worse than, for example, gravity being the same on every planet in the Star Wars universe!

    1. SERIOUSLY???!!!says:

      I was going to go through this list one by one point out why each one was wrong, but i found out that stabbing my brain with a pencil was more beneficial than reading this article. And this comment does it beautifully enough. Does this guy have a job here? If so, then why? And PLEASE give it to me.

      1. Ricky Riccardosays:

        Funny enough I did exactly the same thing. I think like 3 of the points (maybe) had merit. Otherwise I was refuting each one in turn and saying the same line after each one… “You’re an idiot”. Seriously, I’ve watched this move twice now and I like it, yeah somethings are a bit dicey, but this guy makes the movie out as something to be avoided. If you’ve read the entire article, sorry you just wasted like 30 minutes of your time. It really wasn’t worth it. All it did was make me appreciate that my definition of logic goes beyond the superficial definition this guy apparently holds to.

      2. robthomsays:

        “…and saying the same line after each one… “You’re an idiot”. Seriously, I’ve watched this move twice now and I like it,…”

        You should keep saying that.

        You might be president one day.

      3. The stabbing pain was realising how much of a minority you belong to on this particular subject.DO IT, go on do it.Go through all 100 and tell us why we’re wrong and u deserve his job.Awaits patiently.

      4. robthomsays:

        “Does this guy have a job here?”

        Thats always so ironic for 13 year olds to say.

    2. choyceesays:

      Or the fu**ing noises of blasters in the spaceship battles

    3. What drivel indeed your post is!

      1. robthomsays:

        “What drivel indeed…”

        British, liberal or ghey?!

    4. robthomsays:

      “The strong impression here is that you were disappointed with your single viewing of the movie…”

      He noticed 100 plot holes after seeing the movie once!

      Even if half of those weren’t actually plotholes (but they are), thats pretty fvckin bad!

      I haven’t actually cataloged them all myself, that would be giving this movie to much credit.

      But I’ve studied this movie more then a few times (I also enjoy books about the manson murders), and I’ve come to the conclusion that the ENTIRE movie is a one giant plot hole in REAL LIFE!

      damon lindelof being ground zero.

    5. CleanAsACleanSlatesays:

      I don’t want to even begin to try to explain the difference between a Space Fantasy Fiction setting (Star Wars) and a Science Fiction setting (Star Trek), and how Prometheus fails at both. Even Star Wars IV through VI maintained its own internal logic and had consistent, relate-able characters. This allowed suspension of disbelief for the fantasy parts like hyperspace. Prometheus contains so many massive disconnects in reasoning and characterisation that it disrupts the suspension of disbelief completely.

  21. Robsays:

    Just as a silly side note, i remember seeing the trailer for Prometheus before it was released and seeing the shot of Charlize Theron looking in pain. I thought was she being tortured? Was an Alien attacking her? It was sure meant to convey to the viewer that something bad ass was happening.
    Ane then seeing the film, it was… her doing a damn press-up while exercising. Like, WTF? That wasn’t misleading at all…

    1. robthomsays:

      Go to one of the prometheus fan sites and they’ve cataloged all the alternate scenes from the marketing and trailers that didn’t show up in the movie.

      There’s more then a few.

      Basically the entire production of prometheus was a mess from start to finish and the final product was just cobbled together badly before a deadline from bits and pieces of spastic sh!t that they filmed.

      Its filmed by an indifferent director, edited by a bad editor and based on a script written by damon lindelof.

      None of those scenes would have made the movie any better or more coherent if thats what your hoping.

      Just longer.

  22. Robmac1fromimdbsays:

    This is a good post but most things your point out can be explained away by deductive reasoning.

  23. Lanosays:

    I dont know if I have time to debunk everything. So I will start from 1) It is assumed its earth and thats fine. Everything we know about earth before humans is theory and what ifs. In truth we dont know for sure. So cutting down someone else intrepreation is pointless. This will cover 2 and 3 as well.

  24. Lanosays:

    4) We share a Dna match not perfect and not 100 percent. If that were so we would all look and be just like the SJ’s. 6) She says it when greeting the crew, “Its what she chooses to believe”. We find out later that this mission for weyland is about immortality not Shaw and Holloways quest. 5) How can anyone know what drives the SJ’s ships. This questions is sad and pointless. Its alien technology, you arent suppose to know how it works, duh. I will come back and beat you over the head later. bye

  25. This article was great. Yes, it is just a movie but if its connected to the original two Alien movies (which the director says they don’t but we know better), it should make sense. This movie makes no sense at all…all 100 plot holes have merit. Every person criticizing this article probably read all 100 but then claims its stupid. He has a right to write what ever the fuck he wants just like you have the right to either read it or read something else. Get off his back.

  26. Zereksays:

    It’s actually possible to figure out if the DNA Shaw gathered from the alien head predates human DNA. You look at when the two samples diverged from a common ancestor by looking at genetic mutations (it’s a wee bit more complicated). But this also causes a significant problem because our DNA branched out from Primates thus resulting in the first human species over 100,000 years ago (i believe the first is Ardipithecus ramidus). Basically it would make sense that the DNA would “predate ours” but if it were a 100% match they would have had to evolve with humans from said common ancestor making this whole movie make less sense.

    1. Scientistsays:

      Ardipithecus ramidus 100,000 years ago??? Dude, there were anatomically modern humans around 100,000 years ago and we had already left Africa. And what do you mean “our DNA branched out from Primates”? We are primates. Do you mean when we branched off from monkey ancestors? That would include us and the great apes…or do you mean when we branched off from other apes? Or do you mean when we branched off from the chimps? And if the DNA were 100% match (according to the movie) there wouldn’t be any way to tell whose DNA predated whose because there would be no mutations to date. The movie isn’t clear on what “100% match” means…there are statistical measures to tell you how likely it is that a DNA sequence came from a particular species, individual, etc.

    2. javabluesays:

      I found the “they predate us” a little silly. It’s a bit like saying “we predate us”.

  27. Pobsays:

    Do you get paid to write such a load of bullshit? This is probably one of the most reaching journalistic slices of rubbish I’ve ever read.

    You’re an idiot… a desperate one at that.

  28. Anonsays:

    . Why does David not know what ‘casualties’ are when Meredith Vickers asks him? As a hyper-intelligent android, shouldn’t David have a dictionary in his memory banks?

    He knew what the word meant but didn’t know what she meant by it exactly, as there usually are no “casualties” in sleep. He didn’t immediately get that she was hinting at the secret passenger, who could have died during the trip. He probably didn’t get it because it was something not to address or talk about.

    1. robthomsays:

      “…shouldn’t David have a dictionary in his memory banks?”

      Also, why doesn’t david have a USB plug?

      Wouldn’t having him manually study every language on earth out loud with rosetta stone be one of the slowest ways for him to get that done?!

    2. Chantzsays:

      He’s an obnoxious robot and is very specific, he does like vickers either

  29. Flobadobsays:

    I liked the
    surreptitious edit from “The film has some good ideals” to
    “The film has some good ideas”. You’re a bit of a crap
    writer, aren’t you? I really don’t think anyone should take your
    opinions seriously to be honest. The film has it’s problems, but I
    think you’re just another junk internet juggler parroting what they’ve
    read elsewhere in order to chime in with a crowd. I think there is no real or
    worthwhile insight behind what you write whatsoever.

  30. Flobadobsays:

    I liked the
    surreptitious edit from “The film has some good ideals” to
    “The film has some good ideas”. You’re a bit of a crap
    writer, aren’t you? I really don’t think anyone should take your
    opinions seriously to be honest. The film has it’s problems, but I
    think you’re just another junk internet juggler parroting what they’ve
    read elsewhere in order to chime in with a crowd. I think there is no real or
    worthwhile insight behind what you write whatsoever.

  31. Joesays:

    Hey….love the 100…but, unless I missed it, there’s a 101 (which was
    why I started poking around and found your list in the first place.)
    There’s a classic scene in Alien which shows the Engineer from
    Prometheus sitting (dead) in that giants chair / cannon looking thing
    that he flew the ship with. However, as we now know from Prometheus, he
    escaped the crash to go find Shaw in the escape vessel!!! Therefore, he would NOT be in that chair anymore. NOT to mention, when he broke into that escape-pod-ship, why did he not have his helmet on? He would have died on the surface of that planet…heck they wore their helmets deep in that dome thing.

    1. Robsays:

      Different vessel I think.

    2. Trekkersays:

      This is a different “engineer” in this film. Also a different planet from the one in Alien. This planet is cataloged LV-223, the planet in Alien is LV-426. It can be explained that another ship departed from LV-223 with a more developed species and crashed on LV-426 for the Nostromo to find.

    3. Otherhandsays:

      Different vessel, different moon (but you’d have to be a serious Alien nut to have memorised the exact code number of the moon to know that, so I don’t blame you at all). It would appear that the Engineers are clumsy idiots whose own toys destroy them everywhere they go, and they can’t make it out of one star system without leaving wrecked juggernauts everywhere.

  32. crookswoodsays:

    easily the worst article i’ve ever read. IT’S A MOVIE! it doesn’t need to be realistic at all. the entire movie deals with things that don’t exist. It’s not like this is a courtroom drama and they changed laws to make the movie better. I got to issue #19 before i skipped this piece of hot garbage.

  33. studio460says:

    I just watched the BluRay version. I couldn’t believe how badly Holloway’s character was written, and yes, this was the character I hated the most. He never once said anything to give him any credibility as a scientist, often looking like his character would be far more at home in something like “The Hangover”). Some of your technical nits I was willing to accept (and, actually, the glass windows, I’m totally am willing to buy), but the huge plot holes and wholly unscientific attitude of the crew just floored me.

    It’s such a tragedy since every other visual element of Prometheus was spot-on–it’s possibly the most gorgeous sci-fi flick ever produced. But with characters like these who make such non-sensical decisions, it was an entirely flawed experience. Thank you for writing this–thank god I’m not the only one.
    I’ve seen Alien and Blade Runner, the two best sci-fi films ever shot (the third being 2001), more times that I can count, but, I’m incredibly sorry to say, Ridley really f-cked up on this one.

  34. studio460says:

    Also, why is Noomi’s environment suit missing a glove when she exits the shuttle? I mean, what the f-ck? Are these super-space suits that seal at the wrist? So you just ignore the science to show the ring? It annoyed me enough that everyone just loved taking their helmets off at every opportunity, then this.

    1. robthomsays:

      “Also, why is Noomi’s environment suit missing a glove when she exits the shuttle?”

      So that you can see the ring on her finger.

      I guess you could just be thankful that she finally put her helmet on.

      But if you watch the cut scenes, she injects herself with a shot THROUGH the fabric of the spacesuit while in the escape pod.

      So really the helmet and the gloves and the whole space suit are all just there for no actual reason other then for ridley to parade costumes and sets in front of the camera by then.

      I probably would have enjoyed it more if she had just ran around in that skimpy little bandage bikini for the whole movie.

      1. Stan Goodvibessays:

        That skimpy bandage scene was the best part of the entire movie!

  35. studio460says:

    Wow! Such vitriole in the lower part of the comments here! Yes, a movie must create a “realistic” universe (the metaphorical kind, not the literal one), however “unreal,” and stay consistent within the “laws” of that universe (screenwriting 101). If only blue elephants can fly in a given universe, and the story sets that up correctly, you’ll completely buy into it.

    And, as Jonathan correctly states, this is “hard sci-fi.” All the rules of “reality” would still apply: i.e., a geologist or biologist wouldn’t run like a prom queen in a slasher flick when discovering the most incredible scientific find in the history of man.

  36. Clatoosays:

    Something that bugs me and never saw anywhere :

    Do you guys realize that the paintings DO NOT depict the engineer’s world but where they crashed while en route to their third visit to earth, which makes no sense what so ever.

  37. stevesays:

    why does shaw an archeologist in the scene with the engineers head all of a sudden take control of the situation and ask to use the reanimating probe thing- has nothing to do with her specialty at all nor does her knowledge of the medpod. Aside from that if the engineers dna is the same as ours then why do they look so far different from us, are so much taller than use, stronger than us and so on if they have the same dan meaning they are homo sapien. just stupid.

    1. javabluesays:

      The two people pictured on the above website are both human. Does that answer your question?

      1. Otherhandsays:

        Not really. They’re different sizes, but they both have the same flesh, the same blood. You couldn’t make any human being’s head explode with a small electrical current, and if you could you wouldn’t get a shower of green pulp. None of us has black eyes, or translucent jelly-like skin. What we see on Earth is the full width of genetic expression for our genomes.

      2. javabluesays:

        You asked why do they look different but have human DNA – I answered.
        All those extra things you’ve now suddenly brought up happened after it
        died and may have arose from other influences.

  38. xenomorphsays:

    first of all its a movie, a science FICTION movie. if you want more real then it would be call science NON-FICTION. though i do agree some parts are questionable, but some parts from your assessment sounds as if you did follow. like the part where the weapons officer dissappeared. when the rest of the crew in the structure had to make a mad dash back to prometheus, Halloway says “they already left” meaning that the others they were with left back to the ship in one of those dune buggie thingys. but like i said its science FICTION, not science NON-FICTION.

  39. Scott Psays:

    I continue to be surprised about the negativity this movie creates. I absolutely loved it. Pro’s and Con’s have been discussed a million times now, but I’d like to see this treatment done on any other Sci-Fi, action flick. Surely, there’d be just as many for pretty much most movies.

    1. Seversays:

      Yep, you can do it for any movie, but not every movie invites you (dares you, even) to try and question it like Prometheus does. It’s got its sights split on two opposing agendas: 1). explaining events prior to existing canon of 4 films of a popular movie franchise (even more if you include canon from the Predator franchise – odd that it has not been brought up..) and 2) explaining how human-kind came to be. That’s a double whammy. Either agenda on its own is enough to have semi-interested people trying to connect the dots. To expect people to NOT want to connect the dots is stupid (and also infers that people who don’t question it actually are stupid). This movie BEGS people to question it! If it didn’t, or if that wasn’t the intention, then i can think of two agendas that some stupid person really shouldn’t have tackled.

      Forget what it takes on opening day or any other accolade that only the marketting team deserves. As a prequel to an existing franchise, this movie fails. As a stand-alone movie, this movie absolutely fails. As an alternative to Creation vs Evolution, this movie is a failure of Engineering.

      I don’t walk in to a cinema with high hopes these days. Prometheus is the only movie in the last few years i’ve made an effort to watch, but i never did bother to research it. I didn’t need to. Everything i needed to know was there. When i saw the adds, i did actually assume it was a safe concept in safe hands and may have even relaxed my standards a little. My bad, lesson learned. Similarly, after i walked out i didn’t make a list of logical errors. I didn’t need to. It was all there.

      Maybe we can all benefit if those who suspended disbelief and lapped it up for all that this movie wasn’t (and then went out with their anti-nitpicking nitpicker shoes on, go figure) tried raising their standards a little.

  40. Simonsays:

    Brilliant article, thanks so much for taking the time to do such a detailed analysis. This film was such a disappointment, so much potential, incredible visuals and then plot holes the size of a planet.
    The moment the biologist ran away from the greatest biological discovery of all time I gave up any hopes for the film being a classic and it went from bad to worse after that.

    To all the fan boys saying it’s just a film, of course it is, but that’s no excuse for such incredibly lazy writing and poor plotting. From the creator of Alien I expected so much more and you should have too.

  41. 101. How was the Prometheus crew able to carbon date the alien corpse? You need a reference sample for that. Furthermore, are there plants on LV-223? How does the Prometheus crew know if there are plants on LV-223? We (the audience) surely didn’t see any. Why assume the alien corpse was carbon-based when it easily could have been silicon-based? etc.

  42. Jemiphsays:

    Sorry, the explanation for the flute-playing is completely obvious. David does not NEED to breathe, but part of emulating a life-like human, and all its basic capabilities, is the ABILITY to breathe, for functional purposes, like cooling food for a child it is feeding, blowing out candles, removing dust from a lens, etc etc.

  43. jemiphsays:

    Points 1-3: It is Earth. This is not the start of ALL life, but it is the start of the life that evolved into the creatures we know today. Not knowing of this event, science simply drew the wrong conclusions that we are descended from the earliest forms of life for which we have found evidence.

  44. jemiphsays:

    “not scientifically possible” – That means not scientifically possible based on the limitations of human science in 2012. You’re forgetting that the DNA seeded by the disintegrating engineer seeded not only human life, but many, possibly all, forms of life, hence the extensive reconstitution. What is happening to the DNA strands in that sequence is simply far too complex for us to comprehend.

  45. jemiphsays:

    Number 5: “we see no propulsion system of any sort that would allow it to fly”

    Okay this is too easy. What you means to say is that you cannot visually recognise any mechanism that would allow it to fly based on the assumption that the Engineers couldn’t possibly have any technology that doesn’t already exist on Earth in 2012. You are assuming that burning fuel and expelling jets of hot gas is the only possible flight technology, a ridiculous assumption. Just ONE possible example would be an entirely internal gravity manipulation technology. By the way, we already have such technology, just not developed enough to lift a spacecraft.

  46. Phil of Adelaidesays:

    I enjoyed your analysis of the plot holes and was my self frustrated at the illogical plotlines throughout the movie. One ‘clanger’ that I discovered that I’ve not seen others comment on in forums is right near the end when Shaw is about to lower the headless David to the surface (from the heavily damaged Engineer ship) her hair is ‘blowing in the wind’ despite having her helmet fully attached. She is clearly exposed to the elements. She seemed to be breathing just fine however! Have I got this right?

    1. did you consider that her suit could be exchanging oxygen and carbon dioxide? or blowing cool air to help her regulate her body temperature?

      1. if by ‘lol’ you mean my post was ridiculous, then why not explain why the costume designers would actively go out of their way to blow air inside the helmet?

      2. Phil of Adelaidesays:

        Fair point. It did seem that Shaw’s hair was being tussled at about the same rate as David’s unhelmeted hair though.

      3. Tremaultsays:

        heh heh, the funny thing is, the only way for that to be an accident, is if the helmet didn’t actually exist and the special effects guys put it in afterwards! and no special effects department would do something so arduous, when they have the props 🙂

      4. Phil of Adelaidesays:

        Yes! You can almost imagine the props person running in and plonking the helmet on Noomi’s head just before the camera’s start rolling! 🙂

      5. Phil of Adelaidesays:

        Yes! You can almost imagine the props person running in and plonking the helmet on Noomi’s head just before the camera’s start rolling! 🙂

  47. jemiphsays:

    Number 6: Just because Shaw’s reasoning isn’t revealed, it doesn’t invalidate her expert opinion. She expresses it as such, an opinion, meaning no more than a hunch. It’s a valid theory, considering that the star constellation imagery was specifically and identically embedded into races all over the world. What other possible effect could it have, other than to lead us to the Engineer’s home? Seems logical to me.

  48. jemiphsays:

    Number 7: Hardly a plot flaw. How can you possibly assume to know what units will be in conventional use in interstellar flight by the time we are using it? Even builders use millimetres when they’re measuring distances that could be more easily expressed in centimetres if not metres.

  49. jemiphsays:

    8: Simple. The imagery is being translated into visuals by an algorithm. The visuals do not represent David’s entire experience of the dream, just one of many data streams. You’re looking at a monitor display, not David’s entire sensory experience. Even the experience of a dream has a virtual viewpoint.

  50. jemiphsays:

    Okay, I’m not going to do all 100, because I have a life to get back to, but clearly Prometheus is simply not a film for people with poor comprehension skills, or for nerds who believe that if human science in 2012 hasn’t discovered something yet, then it can’t ever be possible.

  51. johnsays:

    I hated this movie before, but now I absolutely LOATHE it. It’s just so totally ridiculous. My thought when coming out of the theater was the Ridley just wanted to show some cool visuals and the latest movie making technology, logic be damned. I really wish that he hadn’t even bothered to come out with this nonsensical garbage, instead of driving the already flawed Alien universe even further into the ground. Alien 3 was even a more satisfiying, logical and worthwhile addition to the series than Prometheus.

  52. Jestersays:

    Wow, without picking apart your ‘holes’ one at a time I’ll just say, sometimes audiences must assume certain conversations have occurred to explain character knowledge and we all know adrenaline can give ppl the ability to accomplish physical tasks that otherwise seem impossible, e.g. running for an extended distance with an injury. I’d hate to read your take on any comic book movie, geez!

  53. holy f*ck you took the words from my tongue!

    btw, I think the last transmission sooner or later gets heard by weyland corporation remnants that will come to exploit the moon. just like they did on Alien, when they tried to safe Ripley because of the lil alien inside her. oh yes, knowing that Weyland played the secrecy card all the time doesnt stop you to making earthlings more curious about this goddamn rock, endangering them of course.

    oh I hate endings that cut of the promising epic finale on an alien world.

    why did they show us the final alien? why it’s not the alien we know to close the circle? why showing off his 2nd jaw? no human being is on that rock, so who is it trying to scare?

    i missed the heart ripping sounds of the trailer… this peaceful piano of the movie was inappropriate. they are in space and noone hears you scream. the last thing I think of is daisies-swinging-in-the-wind-like music. it was nice once or twice on other movies, but i wanna pee in my seat and not feel comfortable.

    to the term “plot holes”. what’s it called when you have less matter than holes? plot islands? there where many good scenes – mere seconds of epicness. but not connected, coming from nowhere, going to nowhere.

    it felt like a repetition of Alien, (on the way to rock, land, explore, bring something with ya, struggle, make it end somehow, oh no it’s not the end, but now it’s the end) with more effects, more creatures, more background knowledge (although we know, they just made it up without any good derivation I may call it that) less darkness, less toughness of characters and a bad bad chain of single scenes.

    oh btw, this oh-aren’t-you-beautiful-scene with the goo snakes was dumb. people behaved this silly in the 70’s and 80’s but not in 2012 please. but even today they ask the darkness if somebody’s there so maybe i’m wrong. but alien creature facing ya, hello! one show on discovery channel and you’re immune to touching wildlife! haven’t they been briefed? I think the happy cookie baking music made him feel like hugging. so much money spent on kids with beards. and I mean the one’s who made the movie, not Weyland.

    cheers, thanks for the list, thanks for reading, I’m gonna dream me some plot hole fillings :3

  54. SadnessforScottsays:

    This is a fantastic review. I was so unbelievably disappointed by this movie that it left a hole in my soul. It’s okay for a movie to play slight of hand with physics, science, etc. But when the plot has holes big enough to fly an alien space ship through, they tend to amplify those moments where the science is shaky and make them unbearable. And I love how all these apologists say the author of this piece “missed” things or “wasn’t paying attention” and talk about how the points the author brings up aren’t sound, but NONE of them bothers to offer an explanation as to which of the 100 very valid criticisms are problematic, besides the window thing, which the author corrected. Ridley Scott played the Hollywood money game with this movie, and it was disappointing. And by Hollywood money game, I mean that he made this movie for money. I don’t have any evidence for that though. “It’s what I choose to believe.” Fucking bullshit scientists.

    Here’s a question for the apologists. Please explain to me why I should suspend my disbelief about those dumb fuckers taking off their helmets? I’ll forgive every single other thing in this movie if someone can give me a good explanation for believing that any scientist in any century would be so incredibly inept.

    1. take a look at response by ‘intelligent guy’

    2. robthomsays:

      “…it left a hole in my soul.”

      I feel your pain buddy.
      I truly do.

      ridley scott is dead to me now.

      And I hope that lindelof will rot in hell for eternity.

      1. Speaking of people with holes in them, is it me or does this film imply that Jesus Christ was an engineer hybrid?

      2. Paulsays:

        It’s just you.

      3. Stan Goodvibessays:

        Actually its not. Scott was going to actually state in the movie that an engineer had returned to earth 2100ish years esrlier, but decided it would be a little too obvious

      4. Helios_delunasays:

        Not just you..and why did they send a science vessel not some sort of light combat ship on a mission into unknown space, with no ways to protect themselves except flying their ship into the enemy and also why do they only have pistols and flamethrowers?

  55. Arianasays:

    I’m sorry, but I loved this movie and I thought that they did an excellent job. Yeah, there’s a few things that they should’ve done differently, but honestly, I had more issues with your list of mistakes than I did with anything in the movie. Most of them just seemed, to me, to be you nitpicking.

  56. beehummingbirdsays:

    Why did the Prometheus had a basketball court and bicycles? The humans were in hypersleep for the journey there, and never used them at all after they woke up, as they immediately got busy with alien stuff. David was an android, so it’s not like he needed exercise. It makes no sense for the ship to have them, especially something as space consuming as a basketball court.

    1. beehummingbirdsays:

      *have not had :/

    2. mission could have lasted a while and crew could have used them if they wanted? besides just because it wasn’t shown them using them, you don’t know that they didn’t.

      1. robthomsays:

        But since they didn’t show anyone using them, why assault members of the audience with a modicum of taste or half a brain by including them?

        The only actual purpose that including pool tables, bmx bikes and a full bar ultimately served the audience was to add more levels of unbelievable absurdity to the already comically inept proceedings.

      2. how is showing the environment they are inhabiting, adding to absurdity? your argument has no logical backbone. would it have been more sensible to show david walking around a load of grey corridors for that entire sequence? would it have been more sensible for you if the crew were offered no stimuli in this deep space mission?

        maybe they ought to be like the international space station and have no equipment aside from research equipment. because they sure as hell don’t have any exercise equipment there….. oh wait.

    3. robthomsays:

      “Why did the Prometheus had a basketball court and bicycles?”

      Children’s bmx bikes to be exact.

      And a pool table (with all silver pool balls), plastic Christmas trees, a full bar.
      A grand piano, chandeliers and 3-4 floor to ceiling bookshelves of hardback books in a LIFEPOD instead of more food or oxygen.

      Let alone hauling all these ludicrous distractions billions of miles across the universe on a mission of scientific discovery,
      but they seem to be in to much of a hurry to get right into the pyramid as soon as they land so that they can call the mission a failure half an hour later and presumably go home before they would have any time left to enjoy any of these luxuries.

      Although maybe thats exactly why they were in such a hurry.

      They saw the bar, wanted to get right back and raid it and then swerve drunkenly around the RTV hanger on childrens bicycles on a far away moon were no man has drunkenly swerved before.
      (Where did the RTV’s go during the briefing and basketball scenes?).

      Possibly NOT a plot hole.
      Just really stupid.

      IMO the long explanation short being,

      that lindelof is an utterly talentless shmuck!
      Foisted onto the public via hollywood nepotism and the tyranny of the dumb masses who thought or heard that lost was smart.

      And because ridley is no longer a director of any significant merits,
      who has instead become a producer fishing around for the lowest denominator.

    4. Chantzsays:

      They were probably planning on staying there for a much longer time…they only lasted 2 days.

  57. What a ridiculous article. Nitpick much, Mr. Lack? Seriously, half of your so-called issues are slight variations of the same few points. We get it, you didn’t like the movie. But your criticism has more holes than you allege the film has. It’s a science fiction movie for fuck’s sake! Also, most of your points center on the actions of the characters not making sense, of characters acting impulsively, selfishly, or stupidly. Sorry, bit do you know any actual human beings? Because most people are stupid, selfish, impulsive, secretive, narcissistic, I could go on, but you wouldn’t listen anyways. Actually, I feel sorry for you. It must be awful to not be able to enjoy a fun, visually gorgeous, and though-provoking work of cinema without picking every tiny piece of it apart that fails to agree with your opinions and worldview.

  58. Myrtusays:

    About 23: If we believe that homo sapiens emerged from one place, wouldn’t it make sense to assume that the first language also emerged from there? That would mean that all languages originated with that one base, and then moved into their totally wild directions with migration and time and all that fun stuff. Of course, based on how Prometheus claims that humans were created, then that assumption about languages wouldn’t work in this movie.

  59. Stano Marečeksays:

    The whole article is awesome, but there are just three things I want to point out.
    Firstly, the problem number 3. The point of the scene, in my opinion, was to make sure the audience really understands that life on our planet was created by the engineers so the next scenes where the crew of Prometheus knows this fact wouldn´t seem so weird. Which leads us to another problem you pointed out – how the heck did the crew found out?
    Secondly, the take off of the engineers´ ship (problem n. 5) didn´t seem so weird to me. Just because we didn´t find out how to do it yet doesn´t mean it cannot be done, right? (Plus it looked really awesome.)
    Thirdly, questions like “Why was Vickers/Wayland even there?” aren´t right. The question is, IMHO, why the heck are they so badly written? They could be so wonderful.
    The portrayal of Vickers and Wayland simply lacks complexity. I think it could be summarized as “daddy issues”. On the other hand I enjoyed the relationship between David and Wayland and the subsequent parralel Engineers-Humans, Humans-David. Although both of them could have been explored to greater depth. But they weren´t so we were left with one-dimensional Wayland and some half-done ideas.
    As for the Prometheus as a whole, I think it could be worse, it simply had too good actors to be an awful moovie. But it also could have been so, so much better.

  60. KlaJayesays:

    I was laughing the entire time!!All you’re point are true and funny at the same time, tey I pointed out a lot of the same things after watching it at home.

  61. ChuckRocksays:

    ohh man i cant believe the amount of people that say they “got” this
    movie when in fact they didnt……………….The main theme from the
    start of the movie is “Sacrifice” … The way the weyland corp
    deliberately send in complete idiots (mercenaries not scientists)while
    they sit on a lifeboat safe and sound, sacrifice. Nothing can be
    achieved without it. Its the main premise of the movie as the intro to
    the film also demonstrates. Earth was to be used as a seeding point
    for the engineers parasitic biotech. Thats why they created us. The goal
    is to produce perfect life.We were to be used as hosts. My evidence??
    (links below).. look at the sculpture on the wall. Its the deacon
    protomorph rising from the primordial goo. But look below that to the
    left and right at the bottom. What do we see, yes two humans or
    engineers with facehuggers injecting eggs into them. Go and check again
    if you didnt see it in the movie, its there i can assure you.. Also the
    biologist mentions that one of the space jockeys bodies they find has
    had something explode out its chest. Yes they had an outbreak before
    they got all the cargo on board. We were to be used as the hosts for the
    perfect lifeform. So our gods created us to be mere cattle, simples!
    So all your theories about lv 426 are not correct. The derelict on lv426
    predates the weapons lab on the moon by many thousands of years or
    more, thats why he was fossilized. So there ya go, that’s actually
    what Prometheus was about and its link to Alien. If you are in any doubt
    of anything ive said, watch the movie again. Also listen to the dialog
    when they are in the pyramid very carefully. Including the part about
    how the water isnt frozen although its 12 below as its actually nanite
    goo. The whole place is made of the stuff as liquid nanite fluid appears
    to be the basis for the engineers technology. Its also how David
    figures out how to work the holo emitters. Remember “David” has an iq
    supposedly of 360 or more. He has been given instructions to look out
    for the bio technologies the company wish to acquire this is the hidden
    agenda of the weyland corp and the reason they are on the mission in the
    first place as its certainly not down to cave paintings.The initial
    team sent in are nothing more than an experiment or sacrifice with David
    pulling the strings.Why do you think david is running about pushing
    things and opening doors like a maniac? He wants at least one of them
    infected and when it doesn’t happen first time round through inhalation
    he’s told to “try harder” As is explained later in the movie Vickers
    “the suit” wants the company and whatever she can salvage from the bio
    tech they hope to smuggle back. Of course her father wants immortality
    or the technology to achieve it.So we also see there is a conflict of
    interests between family members of Weyland corp . As ive said before i
    cannot find any plots holes within Prometheus. Only that people
    misunderstood the film.

    The tomb sculpture with facehuggers

    The tombs Mural with an engineer holding down an Alien biomechanoid his hand melded to its ever evolving/Mutating head.

    David 8 and the Nanites

    The Black nanite goo and its function

    1. robthomsays:

      “…they “got” this…”

      They didn’t.

      That they think that they got something proves how badly they didn’t.

      Luckily for lindelof there are more stupid people then smart people breathing up all the air.

    2. John D.says:

      What does any of this have to do with the fact that it was a badly made film?

  62. Robsays:

    Well, he did come up with a hundred. But I found them kind of annoying to read. Some of them are quite awful like terraforming only counts if you terraform the whole planet. Since most people grasp the concept of para-terraforming as we have seen it in other sci-fi films.
    Some would only be asked by someone determined to be dense. And others so technical who gives a flying frag. But he did a man’s job. Kudos for the effort but am sorry I read it.

  63. Kurtksays:

    The thing that bothered me the most is that in the original “Alien” movie, the pilot of the ship was a Space Jocky, an elephant-like-visaged alien creature that is well known to the human race in the “Alien” universe. One of the Nostromo’s crew members also casually (implying that this isn’t some kind of new, alien race’s skeleton that he just discovered) mentions that it IS a skeleton and that the ribcage had been broken from the inside. The ship the eggs are found in is,presumably, a common space-jocky ship. It was completely ignorant of the creators of prometheus to disregard the rules that the previous movie had logically laid out. In adition, the life cycle of the alien made no sense. It was: black goo infects male and causes him to begin mutating. Male sleeps with female and impregnates her. A tiny little octopus bursts out of the female’s stomach. The octopus then turns into a giant facehugger with tenticles and proceeds to orally rape an angry space man (why would something with such a purpose not be smaller (like a facehugger)?). And then an alien comes out of the creatures abdomen. And then what happens? Are we expected to believe that the rapid and illogical changes just suddenly stop and are replaced by a propper reproduction cycle with actual rules? eg. egg, facehugger, chestburster, cocoon, Warrior/Queen, egg.

  64. yaelyellodjelsays:

    Why does David (the robot right?) even want to test his stuff he gathered from the site, on Holloway? Does he hate him or want to bring everyone in danger by this act of revenge/cruelty or something?

    1. Loctomesays:

      Dave cant harm any human without some kind of authorization or permission. Dave had to trick holloway into saying “he would do anything” first before he could put the virus into his drink.

  65. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    45. More faulty science: “Their genetic material predates ours; we come from them.” Shaw has no possible way to know this.

    Wrong… We can date the time when common ancestors diverged by tracking changes in the mitochondrial DNA. National Geographic Society is compiling a “Human Family Tree” by collecting DNA from every part of the globe and seeking the “Scientific Adam” that was the root of all humanity.

    If they analyzed the mitochondrial DNA from the Engineer, they could figure out how much has changed and compare it to the known rate of alteration and mutation that is allowing humanity to trace our origins back to the very begining.

    1. javabluesays:

      Hate to be picky but the mitochondrial DNA is passed on by the female and only takes us back to mitochondrial Eve (about 200,000 years ago in Africa). To get back to the “scientific Adam”, as you call it, you need to follow the Y chromosome – that, based on current theories, takes you back about 140,000 years in Africa, which is probably why the focus is on Africa when we see David looking at the Earth globe in the jockey’s spacecraft.

      I’m willing to say “yeah, ok” on this despite big reservations but you can’t jump from this to “they created us” which everyone is saying. The issue is is that the jockeys are humans and that means their DNA has within it billions of years of evolution on planet Earth. Which means they can only have come from Earth. This leaves only one possible explanation – the space jockeys were taken from Earth and used, with the black glue, to seed other planets. That’s why Ridley won’t say the planet in the opening sequence is Earth but fobs it off with “it could be any where.”

      And the space jockeys aren’t the engineers. The engineers are the guys watching the sacrifice (not self sacrifice) from the space ship.

    2. Otherhandsays:

      No. Mitochondrial DNA isn’t telling us a specific age. It allows us to map relationships, to a certain extent, but if we met up with a single hypothetical alien relative with a separate development to us that had been separated from us for millions of years we would not be able to say conclusively that this one guy is older than our branch of humanity.

  66. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    47. What about Holloway and Shaw indicates that they want to have children?

    This is just a personal reaction to the statement of number 47 but I believe that it is valid. If she learned that she could not have children BEFORE they got into their planet hopping lifestyle, it wouldn’t have been a part of it. Wouldn’t a woman that KNOWS she can’t have kids feel more able to take risks while still wishing that the biological reality of her inability to have kids wasn’t so?

    We chicks are nuts… Just because MOST OF THE TIME she has come to accept the biological reality and adjusted her life accordingly doesn’t negate the pain that she feels in being unable to have children.

  67. Ray Pestsays:

    A lot of these are crap seems as though the creator is trying to find problems where there aren’t any, not to say he/she doesn’t have a point on a select few.

  68. Anybodysays:

    It’s sad to see how many posters are utterly missing the point of this dissection.

    Yes, it’s just a movie. But that doesn’t mean movies cannot be analyzed and judged on their own merits, does it? Are not some movies better than others, and are there not qualified reasons or standards why some are better than others?

    I love good sci-fi movies but I’m hardly a movie “snob”. I can forgive obvious plot holes so long as the story keeps me entertained and engrossed, so long as it can maintain that suspension of disbelief that all movies are meant to achieve.

    Prometheus fails in so spectacular of a fashion to do just that, that articles such as this one are to be expected. Prometheus isn’t just a bad movie–it’s an insult to the intelligence of those who watch it. Now, I have no doubt that many of you are content to judge a movie based on how pretty the special effects are–you’re the folks who are perfectly happy watching a Michael Bay film. But for those of us who were expecting a good, hard sci fi movie more in line with Scott’s earlier works, we walked away feeling ripped off and incredulous that all the hype surrounding this movie was obviously nothing more than the money-making machine doing what it does best.

    Bad genre films are a dime a dozen. Good ones that address universal questions at the heart of the human condition in smart and cohesive ways–like the original Alien and 2001–are rare indeed. The problem with Prometheus is that it’s trying to be such a film without bothering with any one of the qualities that make such a film good in the first place. It’s as though Scott decided movie audiences nowadays are dumb enough to be fooled into thinking lots of pretty CGI and sweeping landscapes are a sufficient replacement for smart plot design and dialogue. Sadly, judging from even well-known critics’ reviews, he was correct.

  69. I like this. Some things the writer is just wrong on. Some things right. Some things I think are just there to fill up 100 “slots” for an article about 100 THINGS WRONG WITH THE MOVIE. Some things observed are the way they are because – it’s just a movie. I realize that doesn’t work as a logical explanation in terms of the reality the fantasy of the movie is trying to create – but sometimes you just have to accept that. Because in the end it IS just a movie and either you’re impressed with how it carries the narrative from point A to point B – or you’d rather be watching some other movie and pointing out the 100 things wrong with IT. Though it’s still nice to have pointed out how illogical something is when you’re so taken away by all the rest of the cinematic hubris.
    Some things too might be explained by another cut of the movie or sequels – whichever comes first.

  70. Vili Ionutsays:

    @#89 you make a good point. Even a todler would figure something like that out and the scene is cartoonishly portraied; for a movie that WANTS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY (with all the promoting, effort put into details on their site, the TED clip on youtube) that scene totally blows.
    #90 Vicker’s role in this movie was to mediate the discussion between the (thought to be dead) mr. Weiland and the crew and she was the only heir to Weiland’s corporation(if he wanted to remain hidden, he would need a person who showed authority over the mission, and who better than his heir), also to take control of certain tasks that the captain of the ship would not be authorised,.. but that’s my opinion..
    #91 about the rock : it was an alien planet/moon after all and rocks may have different consistency/durability/density… than the ones on Earth

  71. Vili Ionutsays:

    @#100. If you would have paid close attention , you would have remembered she kept her cross at her neck when she discussed with her fucker boyfriend when she stated “ok, they created us, but who created them ?!” ; that’s why she states “Year of our Lord” , because God (supposedly) helped her escape all those perils and she kept her faith the whole time.

    @# 94. I agree . How can David even communicate after being decapitated. His energy source and memory banks, etc can’t be all in his head.

  72. Mr Bsays:

    Anybody defending the logic line in this movie is, frankly, batshit
    bonkers. I wanted to love it. I really did, and was ready to. But the
    blatant anti-logic displayed in this film is completely undeniable, as
    are the points presented in this article. And by the way, defending the
    film with points like “It’s just a movie!” or “The science doesn’t have
    to make sense!” or “Try suspending your disbelief!” is utter bullshit.
    Unless you want to come and see the movie I wrote. It features a
    character who by turns transforms from a person to a rhinocerous to a
    tangerine to a baseball and for the romantic climax, a half blind
    narwhal who saves the world using a time travelling sock it puts on its
    horn. But none of that really matters because it will look pretty so who
    cares if it doesn’t make a shred of sense for a nanosecond. Please
    donate any future cinema-going funds to a reasonable charity as the
    medium of film is clearly wasted on you if you thought this film made a
    lick of sense.

  73. Anonsays:

    Clearly, when David talks about the aforementioned thesis, he’s referring to the very existence of extraterrestrial life (Engineers or not). If you put the same amount of dedication and concentration you did on writing this article onto watching the film with a more intelligent perspective, you definitely wouldn’t be getting so many negative comments. You’ve BLINDLY assumed almost as many ideas as your silly Shaw’s depiction did. Anyway, cheers. Kudos on failing as film critic.

  74. sasaonesays:

    only a short remark:
    when leaving the planet on the spacecraft of the engineer how Holloway will survive during the trip to the engineer`s planet??? The spacesuit and helmet of the engineer looks pretty special, streched to his body. No way Holloway could fit in it or in the hibernation capsule.

  75. sasaonesays:

    only a short remark:
    when leaving the planet on the spacecraft of the engineer how Holloway will survive during the trip to the engineer`s planet??? The spacesuit and helmet of the engineer looks pretty special, streched to his body. No way Holloway could fit in it or in the hibernation capsule.

    1. the atmosphere was breathable down there, remember?

  76. McKinney83says:

    Oh how clearly you have missed the concept of sci-fi! Its meant to be fictional for crying out loud, I mean I adore Independence Day but there are so many holes in that it would resemble my best effort at knitting if put under scrutiny. And for your precise information we live in a solar system because we named our star Sol, so unless other alien races choose to do the same they are referred to as star or planetary systems. This point alone proves to me that you have run riot on your keyboard with half baked ideas and a complete lack of factual information at hand.

    And FYI my hairdryer doesn’t breath but it can still blow!

  77. Aafke-Artsays:

    This movie had some pretty images, but I sat on the edge of my chair all the time being irritated by the drivel and the inconsistencies. and I had been looking forward to it, and I really wanted to like it. It was a relief. reading this post.

  78. Aafke-Artsays:

    Another thing which really irritated me is how they had technology which was lightyears ahead of the Nostromo so many years before, including the ”artificial lifeform”. Stupid.

    1. last i checked, nobody could tell that ash was an android. with david, it was quite clear he was no human. I wouldn’t assume the technology was light years ahead, although the nostromo was a space hauler not a state of the art vessel. they saved money in some areas no doubt, such as computer interface.

  79. Have you lost your mind? How is it that you can completely ignore the ‘fiction’ aspect of sci-fi? Independence Day is one of my most loved films but if I were to scrutinise it thoroughly there would be more holes in it than my best effort at knitting!

    It would seem that you have run riot on your keyboard without adequate research to back up half of your ramblings. Our system is called a ‘solar’ system because our ancestors named our star Sol (get it, Sol – solar?) so another system would be called a star/planetary/binary or any other number of names depending on their formation. I could go on but feel compelled to restrain myself from wasting any more time on your drivel.

    And FYI, my hair dryer doesn’t breath but it can still blow . . .

  80. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    48. When Vickers and the Captain are awkwardly flirting, she says she flew “half a billion miles from earth.”

    When I drive the hour and a half from my current home to Downtown Chicago, I say “I drove half way across the earth to get here and you tell me that the appointment is changed?”

    It has nothing to do with reality, it is a turn of phrase.

    1. Otherhandsays:

      Do you say you drove for a few minutes when you actually drove an hour and a half? She would be well aware about the vast distances involved, so there’s no colloquial shorthand that would really explain “half a billion”.

  81. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    49. Why is the professional geologist smoking pot inside his helmet? How did he even rig that up?

    When did they say he was smoking weed? I just watched this a 2nd time a few days ago and they said tobacco. I swear it said tobacco in the theaters, too. As for the “How”, I would say that it is the same “Tech” as the “Electronic Cigarettes” that they are selling today. So you get the smell of tobacco, taste of tobacco, look of tobacco, etc. but no actual “Smoke”.

    1. Otherhandsays:

      Not in my cinema. Maybe there was a slightly different cut for countries/states with particular sensitivities to recreational drugs?

  82. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    58. Why is Holloway suddenly ready to die?

    I think it might be because the blond said that she would kill them all rather than allowing the one in… And one doesn’t argue with the bitch holding the flamethrower… At least I wouldn’t…

  83. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    59. Why does Shaw get over Holloway’s death so fast?

    Shock, Drugs… Drugs… Alprazolam… With just so much going on, I would say that the odds of her just being in shock are enough for endorphins to keep her from breaking down all the way… Even at the end of the film when she gives the report back to Earth, I would bet that she would be able to maintain for about 10 more hours then the stillness of the ship kicks in and she FREAKS OUT. This is more of an emotional issue, not a plot flaw. (As a chick, that is how I feel about this.)

  84. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    Addition to 61: On a ship being stocked for an insane mission, don’t you think that they would have stocked a couple of sets of “RU486”? Wouldn’t Contraception have been mandatory for MEN AND WOMEN on a mission that could kill them all or strand them in the middle of nothing? I know that the “Alien” impregnated a woman that wasn’t capable of having children so this might be a moot point, but Contraception is never 100%, even Surgical Sterilization like getting your tubes tied isn’t 100%, I know a couple of women that have gotten pregnant though a Tubal… So why wouldn’t they have some abortion pills on the ship? And if there are no medical staff, doesn’t that mean that the crew would have been given access to the “Pharmacy”? Now, if she TRIED to get the abortion pill and David had prevented her, that would make sense… But otherwise, it’s a massive plot hole.

    P.S. “Three Months Ago” or “Three Months Old” might be a reference to pre-freeze time. Freeze Time doesn’t pass the same as Awake Time. If she was 3 months pregnant the day she was frozen, the fetus would still be 3 months old when she defrosts. (Assuming that being frozen wouldn’t have caused a miscarriage.) In Alien, Ripley was in suspension for decades and she didn’t age a day… If SHE had been pregnant, the fetus wouldn’t have grown, either, because otherwise it would have grown and popped out of her abdomen same as an alien popping out of her chest.

  85. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    62. “To lose Dr. Holloway, after your father died after such similar circumstances.”

    Both died from unexpected infection… I can understand the meaning in the statement. Also, he’s SCREWING WITH HER HEAD and if he’s trying to keep her from freaking out and just running like hell, he must engage her in conversation to keep her distracted from what he’s doing.

  86. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    67. Why does the medical pod’s decontamination not kill the alien baby?

    Presumably because the alien is super resilient. It’s an alien… Who knows what it can withstand. I’ll give the film a pass on this one just because it was programmed to deal with earth issues… The alien is an unknown variable.

  87. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    69. How is Shaw not completely stoned from taking massive amounts of painkiller shots?

    She’s stoned off her ass in the latter half of the film… Which would explain why she’s running FORWARD when a big ring is trying to crush her. A LOT of the retardation of the end of the film could be explained by her being high as hell.

  88. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    71. Why, in turn, does no one ever seem surprised about Weyland being on board?

    I assumed that the crew that cares for him was informed before the fight… SOME were there to help him and the rest were kept in the dark.

  89. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    80. Why is everyone so sure the Canisters are weapons?

    80.5: Why would exposure to atmosphere, the same atmosphere that the Engineers breath, cause all the canisters to activate? To melt? To cause the contents to spill out and infect any native creatures in the soil that had gotten into the place in the 2000 years after the owners died?

  90. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    82. Even when the Engineer kills the humans, that doesn’t necessarily mean that they “hate Humans”. S/he/it woke up after having everyone else on the planet be killed by SOMETHING and there are, for lack of a better term, rats infesting his ship! He goes from running for his life to waking up and seeing creatures that look a LITTLE bit like his species running around. He might have thought that they were the result of the experiments his fellow Engineers were running from. Also, after all the stress of having all his peers slaughtered, the Engineer might have just been mad… Insane… I can only assume that Aliens that share “100% of our DNA” (which is impossible due to genetic drift and mutation) are susceptible to PTSD.

  91. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    83.5: What was his DAUGHTER in the film, either? They just needed to shoehorn a fu*kable character and a, and I quote, “Cold as ice corporate representative” into the film so that it followed the “Feel” of the original films.

  92. Shojo Bakunyusays:

    88. I thought that the lifepod was destroyed on accident… Not shot down on purpose by the humans.

  93. Nedinusays:

    One big flaw I saw was, if the Engineers’ DNA and reproduction is the same, why does an octupus come out of Shaw, but a xenomorph-esque creature come out of the Engineer? It makes no sense. Wouldn’t just another octpus pop out?

    1. firstly, engineer dna and human dna is not the same, they merely match. shaw said the engineer dna was ‘everything’. all life on earth perhaps. besides all of that, shaw is a female. the engineer had the payload put into his mouth, not his womb. if he had one, i’m assuming he was male, if they even have sexes. and on top of that, the squid like monster came from a sperm that was infected with black goo. the xenomorph looking thing did not come from sperm, how can anyone assume this is the same point in the lifecycle of any creature?

  94. dgorbysays:

    Jonathan, please look up the word “GLARING” in a dictionary before you write your next article.

  95. Mistakesays:

    16. What does Dr. Holloway mean by a “galactic system?” This is what he calls the place they are going, but he describes the system as a star similar to Earth’s sun with a nearby planet and moon. That would technically be called a solar system, like the one Earth exists in.

    NO! It would NOT be a SOLAR system. It would be a STAR system. Our star system is called the solar system because we called our sun Sol. As there is no other star out there called Sol, there are no other Solar systems.

  96. 1notchsays:

    He could play the flute the same way he speaks, though his voice box or chip. The music wouldn’t necessarily come from the flute, only appear as though it does.

  97. Ctrainsays:

    That read was way more entertaining than the movie…. bravo!

  98. Yeah Nosays:

    While i would agree that Prometheus didn’t answer a lot of questions. Your situation awareness is lacking. You seem to want them to spell out everything like the when Vickers said father to Wayland. Everyone knew that she was her daughter but she said it so that 101 wouldn’t be why do people think that she was his father i mean they held hands she wanted to take over the company but there is no evidence that she is.

  99. Jangosays:

    I gave Prometheus a “6” walking out of the theater for many of these reasons. However, there is one thing I got from the movie that explains about 1/2 of these (albeit very poorly). I believe David knew quite a bit more than he let on. Weyland Corp either had alien artifacts or advanced knowledge ahead of time – failure to explain all this just makes everything more confusing. I think this explains how he can communicate with them and a few other things. I also think the story revolves around David attempting to bring the alien back. The android would be immune to infection and the idiots they brought on board would be great hosts. When you watch the movie with David being a double agent it makes (a little) more sense.

  100. fedexxxsays:

    Number 12: he knows what casualties are, he is just surprised Vickers is asking that right after waking up

  101. TLDRsays:

    So… After reading the first couple pages and being satisfied with my ability to answer almost every question I have concluded that reading more is a waste of time.
    Thank you for making me feel good about myself.

  102. vadertimesays:

    I watched this movie at the theater after a lot of anticipation and waiting 33 years for answers to questions from the first Alien movie. Naturally, like many people I was disappointed with the plot holes and lack of story consistency. However, I recently got the DVD and watched it all over again. My disappointment aside, I was able to critically and analytically evaluate this movie at my own pace in the comfort of my home.

    The short of it is like some others have pointed out, that this a just a movie and entertainment. Maybe not a very well written movie, but understandably so given the pedigree of some of the writers. Whereas Alien had a simple and straightforward plot, this movie was too complicated and tackled too many ideas for it’s own good. Perhaps a singular theme, consistent and clear through the movie might have held the tiny subplots better together. However, I am not Ridley Scott and I don’t know what was going through his mind when he directed this movie or edited it on the cutting floor. I do know that the edited scenes in the DVD answer a few of the questions, but not all.

    I love Blade Runner and I believe that Ridley Scott can triumph again if he learns from the feedback received regarding this movie. Hopefully, the sequel will be a better movie. It is not just sufficient to entertain, especially when making a movie that questions and suggest large ideas. One must approach them with a better explanation and a clearer vision. This movie was a bit muddled in both respects. Let us hope the sequel delivers a better movie experience in the tradition of Blade Runner.

  103. Stupid Sexy Flanderssays:

    Ha ha! All this movie did was point out how stupid the general public is… If you didn’t understand the film (Yes, there are a few stupid things characters did, but it’s really not that complicated) go and watch The Hangover…
    I thought this move was fantastic! At last a movie for people with more than half a brain…

    1. Stan Goodvibessays:

      If you ever have abdominal surgery please pop back here and let us know how easy you found running and jumping in the hours afterwards….

  104. Judassays:

    most of these ‘holes’ are the result of ignorance and inattention by the author. he also has seemed to missed the real holes. wow. go watch harry potter & have mum explain things

  105. just passing bysays:

    Good Article. But I think you forgot the factor that the movie was set on 2090 something. All the things that our current technology and knowledge about science may differ in the near future. I think you have to watch the movie again and I think you can answer all your questions.

    1. Stan Goodvibessays:

      Watched it for the 3rd time on bluray and while its visually awesome the sheer number of plot holes becomes even more apparent. The most annoying aspect is that the scientists act the way a 12 year old with zero knowledge of scientific research would imagine them acting – “oh cool, black goo, lets touch it”. Ridiculous!

  106. Cory Kamermanssays:

    thats why it’s called science fiction… fictional science where the regular laws of physics do not apply. am i getting through to you at all?

  107. Colin Denman-Jonessays:

    I finally found a way to make sense of at least half the issues. (Take a sense of humour with you)

  108. Some of these points haven’t really been looked into, the only one I want to bring up is #45. Whilst I agree that the DNA couldn’t be 100% the same and have two different species (even if one was based on the other) when comparing DNA/tissue samples, etc you can actually age them based on proteins which exist. For example comparing evolution of plants based on protein structure in a sample compared to modern plants. So this along with other methods (which currently exist, so who knows what they would’ve had) would actually be able to determine which species pre-dates the other

  109. Sharp13says:

    I afraid I only agree with 11 of your Q&A’s. I found the other correct 89 answers by watching the movie and using some simple logic. The director and writers (Ridley Scott, Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof) decided to leave everyone asking a lot of questions as there are going to be another 2 movies. These will also be prequels to Alien and will answer the ACTUAL web of questions the director and writers have made!

  110. Just to point out possibilities… The use of ‘glass’ on a space ship would more likely be clear acrylic which could be several inches thich even by our own technology but if we rape other Sci FI movies “Star Trek” speaks of transparent Aluminum in the whale film so there are possibilities… Further being an Android David we presume has a computer that he uses as a brain, that computer would generate heat that would need to be eliminated to protect the proccessor… It is possible then that a fan that cools his computer could also provide the air needed to play the flute.

  111. #1, #2, #3 So maybe it’s not earth, and we’re shown this to establish that this is what the Engineers do when they seed a world.

    #4 If the black goo’s purpose is to break down engineer DNA for the seeding process, it’s reasonable to assume that it is also designed to bring the DNA it processes from a state of, well, goo to a sufficient number of sufficiently humanoid shapes to reproduce sexually.

    #5 Giger designed it that way, so Scott doesn’t mess with it.

    #6 At face value, this is a personal and pretty forgivable wild presumption for an excited archaeologist to make on the day of a significant discovery.

    #7 Since the last part of the credits says that all footage is property of Weyland corp, then all on screen text beyond the opening credits can be assumed to be their doing, and since they’re crazy enough for this mission, they’re crazy enough to write their parsecs as kilometres just so it looks BIG.

    #8 If the sleep pods are complex enough to fish out childhood memories from the cues of dreams, then unless the holder of the memory is some kind of amazing mnemonic savant or a lucid dreamer, they couldn’t possibly remember every detail, so perhaps generated filler would have to be used to establish context and make it actually watchable.

    #9 Consider her the future’s version of what we carved on that plate on the Voyager probe.

    #10 Red lights to alert crew to a change in trajectory, Flicker as long-dormant fluorescent lights turn on, tiny shift in inertia as the ship fires retros to decelerate.

    #11 David was built to emulate humans perfectly, so even though he doesn’t need it, he should have breath installed, even if it’s only used rarely.

    #12 She’s being overly militaristic, a pretty massive pessimist, and snarkily implying that David, as the overseer of the sleeping humans, might have let any of them come to harm.

    #13 It’s a surprise mystery mission to who knows where and they were barely briefed before the trip. Nobody’s going on that without seeing some cash. Also he clearly wants to shake off the hangover of the hypersleep in peace.

    #14 He looked just the part in the Weyland TED talks, though, and if you don’t look at him, his delivery implies great age.

    #15 Super valid. Statistically, you can’t find a spot in 3D space from a 2D chart without there being more to it. But, Weyland corp might have already been investigating space, and might have been investigating an area of space where the planetary arrangement manifested. We’re so used to Weyland-Yutanis hidden schemes that maybe we’re not giving the original Weyland corp enough credit. But it isn’t even slightly implied that this is the case.

    #16 #17 She’s an archeologist, not an astronomer! (Jim) She’s just failing at syntax ‘cos it’s not her field.

    #18 Wild-eyed wishfulness / leap of faith / too much time in caves. Then again, you can’t see the planetary system from earth by eye, which implies that the early humans to drew that configuration of planets from information imparted to them by the Engineers.

    #19 Giant dude points to the stars. It implies, at least. It’s not a huge leap from theories that ancient egypt had extraterrestrial assistance. Not that there’s a whole lot of proof there, either.

    #20 I… I can’t argue this one. It could have worked a lot better if she said “They are us”, though.

    #21 It’s okay to have a theory, and in archeology many theories remain theories forever. Her faith in her theory must have inspired Weyland, though, hence the mission, and hence the expendable crew of hired randoms who mostly just go along with it for the paycheck.

    #22 If you’re going to a place that might have friendly aliens in it, even if there’s no reply, surely you send a load of radio, IR, microwave and other signals, all with something easy to understand that basically says “hi, we’re humans, you might recognise us, we like violins”

    #23 David could reasonably learn the languages spoken in the areas and eras in which the cave painting were drawn, find common features and similarities, and extrapolate from that an assumed Engineer language, but it’d be pretty abstract and very unlikely to be right. Even if they left him a Rosetta stone, he’d still only be able to read and write it. If the engineers visited the early humans regularly, it also seems unlikely that they wouldn’t speak the regional earth language. In that case, David would still have to learn a variety of dead tongues, but it wouldn’t be “their” language. If the Engineers did make the local humans speak their language, somebody might have had the foresight to transliterate it. Finally, maybe Holloway’s thesis is in fact incorrect, David suspects this, but learns dutifully anyway.

    #24 There’s probably many more of those plains with ship/pyramid/hangars in. They just spotted the nearest one and went for a look.

    #25 Because he wants his presents, Shaw’s enjoying his excitement, and Weyland said they’re in charge.

    #26 God doesn’t build in straight lines, but Engineers might level a plain around an important natural structure. Holloway’s genuinely thinking like an archeologist and not assuming that the structure is constructed (plus to human eyes, it doesn’t look it)

    #27 They’re going along the route along which the pups have mapped the most. If your map takes a while to draw, you only go in the bits you’ve drawn. Simple.

    #28 Because he’s excited and headstrong, and firm in his convictions. And kind of an idiot for doing so.

    #29 In alien terraforming technologies, it’s not crazy to notice one area whose atmo significantly differs, without airlocks or anything like that, and assume that it has something to do with terraforming. Also these dudes are pilots laying a casual bet, not scientists.

    #30 Because it looks like sanskrit. Also, David may be reacting to the phosphorescent goo, which may be carrying a tiny electrical impulse that he can feel and thereby intuitively guess the controls based on feedback. Notice also he never translates and reads out loud any alien text, and there’s no evidence that he got any of his language attempts right.

    #31 He stayed to guard the ship, not the scientists.

    #32 This geologist is a weirdo, is all. He’s no professional, as you can tell by his howling into his suit’s radio, smoking weed in his helmet, and not investigating any rocks whatsoever. He was probably the only geologist Weyland could hire crazy enough to go on the 5 year round trip mystery mission.

    #33 Because Weyland has little time left, and he’s clearly told David to make haste. He can’t afford the slow procedural approach over untold months with crew of hundreds that a mission like this *should* require.

    #34 Yeah it was dumb of them, but the implication’s there: “(from what i’m observing on this mural my suspicions earlier are correct and) we’ve affected the atmosphere in the room!” But procedure wasn’t followed, because Weyland only cares what David is up to. And *he* didn’t affect the atmosphere in the room.

    #35 That’s not a logical issue!

    #36 The shards may not be sharp like glass, they may be more delicate and shatter on impact, which would make them very turbulent if not suit-destroying. The suits are likely to be lightly armoured, too.

    #37 “lost” and “having a map” are pretty subjective. Plus, the captain may be on the bridge where the map lives, but he’s not the cartographer, that’s the geologist. Who is clearly not the man for the job.

    #38 No spores, microbes, insects, bacteria. It’s tech designed for earth, and the sate of change here is most likely the black goo, which seems to work on a nano level outside of the detecting powers of earthy medical tools.

    #39 David is rushing things, as he is for most of this film, to get Weyland out of his pod and in front of a living Engineer. He seems to already know what do to to disengage it, as if he’d seen another before.

    #40 If there’s no contagion, but there’s a visible and rapid biological state of change in the corpse of a species that uses biological technology, then maybe its electrical. So zap it to find out?

    #41 The only person who’s a 100% DNA match with you is YOU. So no, we don’t have a full DNA match with the engineers, or we’d all be identical. Instead, it’s a 100% match to human DNA – as in, in a lab on earth, engineer tissue would register as human instead of, say, dog. It’s a 100% species match.

    #42 It seems he was hoping for more than another archeological digsite on another world. Sure, he’s an ingrate for wanting more, but it seems like he was hoping for living engineers to be there to pat him on the head and tell him he’s done well for following their map.

    #43 The geologist who launched the mapping pups is responsible for them and the mapping, so it’s his job to check it out.

    #44 Try and make a human head explode just by applying electricity. It’d boil and ignite long before exploding. So her curiosity is valid.

    #45 She might have meant that Engineer DNA matches modern human DNA, which obviously hasn’t always been that way over humans evolution. Therefore engineers have a DNA config that human DNA has slowly worked up to. Predate like that.

    #46 It’s called Hope.

    #47 They’re not robots, she’s entitled to want a baby even if it doesn’t suit her current lifestyle.

    #48 Have you ever said “I’ll be a mile up the road” ass opposed to specifically stating that you’ll be 0.937655638777535562 miles up the road? Ever said you’ve got a hundred things to do? Yeah.

    #49 because he’s unprofessional, well outside of any laws, and an idiot.

    #50 It’s alive, which is what he’s all about, whereas the bodies died horribly in panic and are themselves formidable.

    #51 It would seem he’s never seen a snake get angry before. Somehow. He might be a lab biologist with no affinity for animal body language.

    #52 Because he’s terrified. It’s probably in his brain already clouding his judgement, too.

    #53 Their blips are still there as their suits are intact, and it might have taken them a reeeeeally long time to die while their vitals remained steady enough to not throw an alert. Plus, they’re expendable, and the Captain just flies the ship. Maybe their vitals aren’t even monitored, just onscreen.

    #54 It was pretty unwise.

    #55 Maybe it is, and sounds and words have a corresponding notation. A language could be based on the mathematical rules of music and simply substitute notes and tones for a syllabary. Maybe David even worked this out as he went along and used/saw their tech.

    #56 Because everyone panics and it all goes to poop, because this is a movie.

    #57 She was holding a flamer, and had no time to get something else.

    #58 He knows he’s as good as dead already after seeing what happened to the others, and seeing his own eyeworm and Shaw’s reactions to what’s going on with his face.

    #59 She’s clearly been administered sedatives, dissociatives, or something of the sort by David, who (ah Weyland, even your un-son) wants to bring her and her non-traditional foetus back to earth.

    #60 To shock the crap out of her, and gain her cooperation to get the foetus stored in stasis for later study, and for whatever else David can do with those semi-interactive sleep pods.

    #61 No. There’s David. He’s stronger, faster, and more precise than any human, so he should be an excellent surgeon. He IS the med crew, among his other jobs. Tea, Ma’m?

    #62 This may be an attempt at compassion, or he may be subtle enough to be able to use this a kind of “don’t die like your dad did, come to stasis” coaxing. Ebola can’t break you down inside as fast as the black goo can, but it’s the closest earthy equivalent to what might await her without medical help.

    #63 It’s for Weyland. It’s also probably only there for backup in case David can’t provide medical assistance.

    #64 It seems insufficient, but it got the job done, with wayyy too much wriggling around inside the pod.

    #65 Adrenalin + bizarre alien biology = great feats

    #66 She really doesn’t have a choice, and is probably bleeding into her spacesuit the whole last ten minutes.

    #67 It tried. But it’s not built for killing baby-sized things with ridiculous strength.

    #68 Human physical limits can be transcended, but you’ll break your bones. When you’re a crazy zombie will of parasites, you don’t really care.

    #69 She is. She’s tough enough to take the whole last chunk of the film with enough meds in her to knock her out, but the whole experience is so insane she’s running on adrenalin. She might have also shot up with stimulants as well as painkillers.

    #70 Because they’re doing their mission. The real mission. Shaw, like the others, is expendable; they don’t care if she walks in covered in blood, or not at all. David clearly realises what’s happened, but doesn’t bat an eyelid.

    #71 Because that’s the least freaky surprise they’ve had all day.

    #72 “find me a god so I don’t have to die” is a plaintive request, and he knows this, which is why that isn’t how he formed his invitation to the mission or his brief. Once shaw is there and they meet in the flesh, he’s hoping he’ll be saved, but he’s not convinced. He seems resigned that it won’t work, but he does it anyway. He’s come this far.

    #73 He’s a desperate, dying man, a King at the end of his reign, and he’s willing to try anything. What’s more, he has the hubris to think they will hear his plea.

    #74 She thinks it’s dead, she’s full of morphine, and yeah she probably should have, although David clearly realises what’s happened.

    #75 It hurt like hell and she’s probably slowly bleeding out in it for the remainder of the film.

    #76 He doesn’t know it out of nowhere, he works it out. At about roughly the same time the intelligent viewer is *supposed* to.

    #77 She just meant that he’d seemed a bit carefree and impassive thoughout, with the exception of rescuing crew.

    #78 She *still* thinks it’s dead. and is chock full of morphine and rather more involved in the moment.

    #79 She went to make sure Weyland died. And likely to make sure he didn’t do something like leave the company to David, or somesuch.

    #80 Because they are. Due to the clear evidence of how dangerous they are to human life, and the sheer number of them.

    #81 See above plus there’s no indication that what David says is understood.

    #82 She just had a pretty traumatic experience. And is still full of meds. Her assumption that they hate us is presumptive, though; maybe they just want rid of us like, say, ants in the kitchen.

    #83 To assert the parable of mortality and origin.

    #84 He woke up, realised the mission to black goo bomb earth had gone to poop when his crewmates outside the chamber had died instead of launching, and immediately tries to set it right, particularly because he was SO late for his mission the entities he was supposed to destroy had actually come to him, woke him up, and gotten all impertinent.

    #85 They saw how the cannisters sweated the goo, they know two men died in it and one became a zombie, one of them just plain died for reasons only David knows, the holograms of the engineers running from the cannister chamber… They had enough hints.

    #86 Because David discovered their coordinates set for earth, and see above, black goo/cannisters bad.

    #87 No so much. Watch her land badly.

    #88 The big lifeboat is for launching in space, and crashes pretty hard when it hits the ground. She knows this, so chooses the pod which might kill its occupants a bit less if you had to use it on a planet.

    #89 When you see it from their perspective, they can’t see that it is lined up like this, so they just run away best they can. The explosions touching down all around them only disorient further.

    #90 For her scorn. Mostly.

    #91 It isn’t, it more likely impacted the panel that would otherwise have shattered her helmet.

    #92 Big handle for prying, a pick on it too. That’s a useful axe, wood or no wood.

    #93 It’s an alien, made of human and black goo. It doesn’t obey the rules, and maybe it ate the pod and all the chemicals in it.

    #94 the engineer and David were in the same chamber when the ship crashed. The red radio light near him winks in time with his speech.

    #95 The engineer is a badass, and was in the cockpit, which looks very well-braced for turbulence.

    #96 He watched the engineers do so. He doesn’t say he can do it perfectly, but it’s better than nothing. Also, there’s clearly a method for reattaching his head, or Shaw wouldn’t salvage his body.

    #97 He probably means their point of origin before they came to the planet we see. As in, if he can control the ship, he can maybe read the log, or previous coordinates, or maybe their starmap has on system marked HOMEWORLD.

    #98 Conviction.

    #99 You and Me.

    #100 Faith.

    1. I got to #30 but it made me leaugh so loud I had to stop!.Most of the points you didn’t understand or didn’t answer.Everything else was “maybe”,”if”,”perhaps”,”assume” and “because it is”.PMSL.

  112. intelligent personsays:

    1. the planet is earth. blatantly stupid point.
    2. this can be the origin of life on earth if the predicted time scale is wrong. in terms of this ovie where life doesn’t spring up on its own but is given a headstart, it is perfectly reasonable to assume this may not be the Archean era.
    3. pointless. it is earth. there is not denying this, any stupd person can easily say this is earth. the visual narrative is very clear on this fact.
    4. our DNA is not a perfect replica of the engineers, they made it quite clear that the DNA matches because the engineers contain ALL DNA.
    5. this is so stupid it makes my head hurt. I can no longer see an antenna on my phone, does that means it’s nt there? give me a break, they have advanced technology, it would be easy for them to have created a propulsion system that is not easily identifiable by a human being.
    6. ‘character’s opinion’ does not equal ‘logical inconsistency’. I understand why she would think that. becaue there is a pictographic representation like a map. if somebody left me a map, I would assume they wanted me to go there.
    7. assuming that current scientific methods apply to all situations in the possible future. many years ago we used to measure things in yards and feet. does that mean if a film doesn’t show measurements in yards and feet, it has a ‘logical inconsistency’?
    8. because this is a film. it would be a pretty shitty director who decides to throw out the entire catalog of film techniques because a person was viewing a dream.
    9. this is a golden record.
    10. person appears to be unaware of the phonomenon known as momentum and what would happen if a ship decelerated upon arrival. red lights give a visual alert in case conscious crew members were deaf. lights flicker to remind disoriented crew members of direction to command centre.
    11. david stated quite clearly he is made to appear human. he would appear very human if he was unable to expel air from his mouth.
    12. his surprise at teh word casualties does not indicate that he does not know the word. this is anothe stupid point. he question her use of the term because everyone was in hyper sleep and david obviously never expected there to be a malfunction. it is human to not trust a system such as hypersleep but david is not human so he doesn’t expect that type of question.
    13. If I had two people sat before me, A was a renowned geologist motivated solely by money and the other was an ok geologist who didnt care about oney but was eager to get teh job done… I would choose the man who can do the job. who gives a crap if their motivation was money or socialising or refinement of their art. you pick the best man for the job.
    14. it’s not really a ‘logical issue’ with the film is it? it’s a casting decision. there could be a few reasons. people will age differently in hte future due to advanced medical science. guy pearce was already cast for a young peter weyland in the TED viral video.
    15. humans are capable of predicting what the stars will look like in the future. is it really so hard to believe that the engineers predicted this star formation? or does this person seriously think that the cave paintings were the result of the cavemen looking into the sky. yes. of course. with their advanced telescopes. obviously the engineers gave this information to the ancient cultures by other means. perhaps by visitation. yes the universe is vast… I’d love it if somebody could show me the exact formation of the constellation of orion in another part of the night sky. besides, it was the presence of a ‘m class planet’ that made them take notice.
    16. I can’t believe i have to spell it out. it’s a system within a galaxy. it’s really not that hard. and if the term sounds odd, let us reasonably assume that the future scientists may have found systems outside the galaxy?
    17. yes. there seemed to be – ‘a planet, just one planet with a moon capable of sustaining life’. we shall all be damned for using our language so flippantly!!!!!
    18. if somebody left me a map, in multiple places, I might assume it is an invitation. once again though, it is a characters opinion. why repeat the same issue twice?
    19. person seems to be blatantly ignoring the glaring obviousness of the lines that shaw says very clearly in english “I don’t, but it’s what i choose to believe”.
    20. oh wait
    21. no, person clearly heard that line but is incapable of tying these things together. without a shred of proof? I guesss they didn’t just show the cave paintings showing a very specific star formation then? and giant beings? oh well…
    22. what? I can’t believe i am still reading such stupidity. who are they contacting? uhm, I dunno, THE ENGINEERS?!?!?

    at this point i find these ‘logical points’ to be childish and ignorant.
    I’m going to stop there.
    anyone who WANTS there to be an issue will find any amount of things to pick at, and anyone who thinks about them properly can come up with a perfectly reasonable answer, as I just demonstrated. what I want to know is, what is the REAL issue.

  113. AJHsays:

    Why spend a trillion dollars on this elaborate spaceship to travel to the great unknown of the universe where you will encounter God knows what AND NOT EQUIP IT WITH A WEAPONS SYSTEM?!?!? I imagine it was too radical of an idea to put a laser/missile/explosive projectile weapon system aboard Prometheus b/c the crew was so looking forward to sacrificing themselves & the ship in the event of an encounter with a hostile alien life-form or vessel.

  114. The writer is that guy who wrote “LOST”

  115. Jerry Eiffsays:

    Concerning Part 1 items 1-3. In the delated scenes shown on the internet as well as the DVD there are several senior engineers that accompany the alien that swallows the goo. This indicates a ritual sacrifice like that of the Mayans or Incas which is tied to their religious ceremonies . The planet shown is NOT EARTH it just an example to show the method life was spread across the universe. The process might not haved use scientific fact but is an attempt to introduce the goo and link it to the goo as used later in the movie. Perhaps the introduction was not meant for scientific accuracy but for cheap plot explanation reasons, this a movie after all not an episode of NOVA.

  116. I have a theory about the first scene. The planet is Earth, and the Engineer wasn’t sacrificing himself. He was marooned, probably because of some crime he did. And you know how in the past sailors were marooned on a desert island and given a loaded gun so they can commit suicide? Well, the capsule the Engineer drank from was their version of the ‘loaded gun’. The Engineer was killing himself and the resultant biogenesis was an unintended event.

  117. Hiljaisuussays:

    You a have little common fault at 63. That medical pod is not for Wickers. It is there for Weyland, that is why it is calibrated only for male patients.

  118. Completely disagree with #5. If the method of propulsion was some sort of anti-gravity drive with the ability to shift the center of gravity to alter course much like a marble on a flat surface, there would be no need for thrusters.

  119. #10: There was no tipping from side-to-side: the ship was decelerating and objects within the ship were not. Newton’s first and third laws of motion. Get a clue, mate.

  120. Regarding #66: as a post-surgical nurse & survivor (lol) of 3 c-sections-yes, it IS possible to be moving around freely after having had such a surgery. In fact, it is encouraged that the patient do so as soon as possible to prevent complications. Everyone reacts to pain differently and one’s physical fitness prior to surgery greatly affects recovery. Do we advocate running around & jumping over potholes? NO!! Because that does increase the risk of the wound splitting apart. I did think it strange that the pod didn’t put her to sleep; but that would have ruined the drama of the movie. I assumed the shots she gave herself were adrenaline or something like that (it’s the future, who knows what medicine they created). All I can say is, it’s a movie, it’s make-believe.

  121. Devil'sAdvocatesays:

    In regards to how the android could play the flute without lungs to blow air, I would say that an android would be programmed to appear as human as possible, so it appeared to use the flute, but the actual sounds came from the same speakers that the androids voice was also produced from. LOL

  122. Danomaninfinsays:

    I know plenty of people that didn’t question the logic, reasoning, nor scientific accuracy of Prometheus the way you have here. I was never quite sure how i felt about the movie. But after reading all of these detailed observances, it occurred to me how ridiculous it would be for a director and entire movie production team not to notice mountains of errors. At the same time, your observances are sound, accurate, and on point.
    if the director did all of these things on purpose. Flip that sentence,
    what if the director had a purpose in all the “mistakes.” Maybe to show what happens when reasoning, questioning, and logical deduction are taken for granite. Maybe the
    movie is a reference to organized deceit, specifically pointing out the
    reckless behavior within all of the persons involved. The worst being
    the ones in charge. But also a wake up of sorts, imagine watching that
    movie without asking all those questions?

  123. I enjoyed this movie but I also agree with with a lot of what was pointed out in this – tho a good movie it really didn’t explain much

  124. I enjoyed this movie but I also agree with with a lot of what was pointed out in this – tho a good movie it really didn’t explain much

  125. huntermcsays:

    Most movies that suck are simply forgotten as soon as the next big thing comes along, but Prometheus had such wasted potential it’s criminal.

  126. huntermcsays:

    Most movies that suck are simply forgotten as soon as the next big thing comes along, but Prometheus had such wasted potential it’s criminal.

  127. Smarterthanyousays:

    Any of you idiots ever think to realize this movie was designed this way as a set-up for a sequel? Then, many of the questions left unanswered could be answered. We know the planet in the movie isn’t LV-426, and we know LV-426 is where they found the derelict spacecraft. Well maybe that’s where Shaw is going next? Ever think of that?

  128. Anonymoussays:

    I cannot believe you spent the time to write all this, especially when most of it is pure stupidity. Most if not all of the questions have very obvious answer and they are not the ones you posted. In many of them you are actually asking why does the story go that way??? It’s just what they wanted to do, there is no flaw of having random occurrences in a movie telling a unique story

  129. anonsays:

    42. a “bullock” is a castrated bull. what does one of those have to do with the movie?

  130. G_Asays:

    @22″Even digital messages need another digital receptacle. They can’t just
    be sent out into the ether in hopes of getting a response.” False. Of course you can do that. We already send out radio messages in hopes (or fear) of other species intercepting, analyzing and understanding them – which is exactly what you need to do to any message, no matter how it is transported through space.

  131. Call_me_disappointedsays:

    Let’s face it, this film was complete and utter shit from start to finish. I initially described it as “a stupid film, about stupid people, doing stupid things”. I would only amend that to read “a stupid film, about stupid people, doing stupid things, made for an even more stupid audience”, because you’d have to be as dumb as a brick to think this film has any saving graces at all.

  132. MrObjectivitysays:

    Why does David, an OLDER model than the android in Alien, function with his head completely severed? His head would have had to be able to wirelessly transmit signals to his body, implying that THE DESIGNERS EXPECTED HIM TO GET DECAPITATED!!! … In Alien, the android also gets decapitated, and they had to reattach the head for it to function.

  133. Critic's criticsays:

    You are all complaing for no reason. Prometheus was a fine movie, but due to the fact that the movie does not follow a few of Earth’s rules, not to mention in a completely different time, you decide Prometheus is stupid. The ship was not built specifically for the purpose of journeying to the system, so the basketball court is meant for exercise during any mission, under any circumstances. Stop dissecting movies for everything that is wrong, and just enjoy it. It is entertaiment, not a universal, textbook-changing documentary. Deal with it, or don’t watch.

  134. LABsays:

    I watched the movie in the theater and I liked it overall but I did have a few problems with it as I sitting there. I agree with this author that taking your helmet off after rushing into an alien environment was pretty dumb. Why was Weyland on board? There seemed to be no purpose to tricking the crew into thinking he was dead. I’ve had two ceasarians. Yes, I could walk fairly soon after each but I wouldn’t have been running, jumping, and cliffhanging immediately afterward. The one that drove me the craziest was watching Vickers and Shaw running the exact path of the ship’s shape underneath it. They could have practically side stepped the falling debris.

  135. Your an idiotsays:

    You. Are. A. Fucking. Idiot. Who’s the little girl? Thats Dr. Shaw dumbass. It even says so in the film. You’re over examining it. Just enjoy the damn movie. No one cares if its a little off!

  136. nopesays:

    A few of these points have merits, however I think you should have made your list a bit shorter as most of your “plot holes” are the same thing (there was, what, ten “holes” all talking about Shaw’s impromptu surgery) just worded differently. Heck, even without fixing this a bit to get rid of plot holes that aren’t actually plot holes if you think about it you could easily compress this into a list of 20 plot holes by taking out all the ones that are repeated. Go back to school and learn how to write a good article.

  137. Why the hell did David infect Holloway? For what purpose? This movie was an afront to Scifi

  138. Ah, how this brings back memories I had managed to suppress! A lot of people would think 100 items is getting a bit silly, but the film really is *so* bad that a list like this is probably necessary to capture the sheer scope of it’s stupidity. I have never felt so betrayed as a fan of various franchises as I did at the end of this. I thought we were supposed to learn about the origins of the ‘Alien’ story, but this added nothing and ruined just about everything. I don’t think the idea of an Alien prequel is even possible to salvage after this mess.

    Ultimately, they hired the worst guy possible to write the screenplay. He discovered while making ‘Lost’ that many audiences just don’t care about logic or plotholes as long as you keep the excitement of the current moment high enough, and promise ‘answers’ in the future. When the future comes, just promise more answers in the future!

    Well the cultural weirdness of the ‘Lost’ phenomena was unique and you just can’t get away with such awful plotting and logic with the universe and fanbase of Alien.

    The worst thing for me was the absurdity of having your stomach cut open and then running around like a gymnast in five minutes. I’ve seen how a stomach wound affects your movement, practically everything you do with your body requires stomach muscles, and after an operation like that it takes *weeks* before you can even walk comfortably.

    It’s not even possible to fix this mess with a director’s cut, unless they actually reshoot lots of stuff and do a complete rework of the internal logic.

    I hope Ridley Scott learned something from this debacle. He obviously didn’t pay *any* attention to the script as he worked on the cinematic side, and it was a beautifully-shot movie. All the ingredients are there for a stunning prequel but the script is just one of the single worst things a writer at *this* level in any genre or medium has ever created.

    It actually took me 3 attempts to watch this all the way through; that’s how bad it was. My first viewing only lasted to the point where the geologist starting acting like a massive psycho for no reason,and it took me 6 months to persuade myself to try again.

    It’s almost a crime to take something cherished in so many people’s memories and do this to it. I’m not normally a nasty person but I hope Damon Lindelhof never works as a writer again.

  139. The thing is, you didn’t even list all of the glaring idiotic problems with this POS movie. You could have done another 100 and still not adequately explained how insultingly bad this terrible excuse for a movie is. I honestly think it’s one of the worst films I’ve ever seen and I think the world is a worse place because it exists.

    And it’s spelled ‘bollocks’ by the way, which is another good adjective for this foetid mass. Ridley Scott is a talentless hack and it’s time people woke up to that fact.

  140. CleanAsACleanSlatesays:

    How come people who think this was the best sci-fi movie ever made can only conclude that people who don’t like this movie must be stupid or have a mentally disability?

    Leaping to such a conclusion is … wait for it … STUPIDITY.

  141. Priest Vallonsays:

    Did anybody else find Shaw’s voice so goddamn annoying, her falsetto moans and acting so transparently forced, that you wanted the lone, living “Engineer” to rip her over-indicating, mush-mouthed head off instead of David’s? And what’s with the “Captain” of an elite space vessel not being able to articulate, without an inflection and accompanying lingo that pays homage to “Homey the clown”?

  142. The characters were insufferably stupid to detract from the pointlessness of the movie. I get the impression that the idiot scientists were scripted as an after thought because without them distracting us from the empty storyline we’d fall asleep. I really hated that this movie turned out so bad. RS and everyone involved with it should be ashamed.

  143. Chantzsays:

    David most likely had artificial lungs, this is presumed by the conversation he is having with holloway. Holloway asks why David is using a suit, and David responds it was how he was programmed, to be as humanly as possible so to make the other humans more comfortable

  144. Chantzsays:

    #8. Have you ever tried watching someone else’s dreams?

  145. Chantzsays:

    #15. I don’t think these ancestors were actually looking at the star system, because during their presentation, Holloway states that the star systems is way too far away to be seen by the ancestors; god knows where they found the pattern…

    Edit: god doesn’t exist according to this movie…because that’s what I choose to believe.

  146. Chantzsays:

    Rewatch the scene where shaw is putting David’s head in the bag and lowering his body, her hair is blowing in the wind, some how it’s penetrating her suit. It can’t be that the suit is converting the atmosphere into air because her suit already told her that her oxygen was low.

  147. prometheusisagoodmoviesays:

    Hey Lack, almost all of you points are pretty ridiculous. Its a science FICTION movie. Androids can be really smart. Spacecraft can be really efficient. The alien could have eaten the FOOD on the ship.

    Yeah the astro-stuff was a little ridiculous; of course the pictograph could never be used to identify a star cluster. The script should have said there were numerical coordinates of some sort. Then it could have been considered to be an “invitation”.

    But you forgot the most glaring error. 3% CO2 wouldn’t hurt anybody. They would only need their masks to prevent the spread of contagion. (And why would her life support have warned “Two minutes of oxygen left” if the atmosphere was 21% percent oxygen, the same as Earth…???!!! OMG what a horrible movie)

    But “no thrusters on the alien spacecraft” as a glaring error? Get real dude. I can’t even tell if this list is a joke.

  148. I thought the point was the Aliens started life on earth and every few millenia sent someone back for a look. We killed jesus who was the last Alien sent to help so they decided to kill us. But the underlying religious tone and general stupidity of all involved made me lose interest. Why has nobody in an Alien or Zombie film ever seen an Alien or Zombie film.

  149. Bananavillesays:

    I hated Weyland as an old man, I could not figure out why they didnt just hire an old man to begin with? The makeup was terrible.

  150. Simon Rsays:

    Never have I been so disappointed with a movie, especially from a director who’s work in the past has included some of my all time favourite films.

    The complete lack of realistic science in the film killed it for me. Sure you can play fast and loose with reality if your filming something like Star Wars, but producing a ‘hard’ science fiction film while ignoring even the basics is unforgivable. Did they not think to actually employ a science adviser on this movie ?


  151. beatrixbaddaysays:

    are we forgetting this is still a movie? of course there are going to be plot holes…IT’S A MOVIE! not a documentary with actual facts that can be proven. Yes, this movie does have plenty of issues, but a lot of the things on this list ARE actually explained in the movie. Like the message with the little girl playing violin…that’s a message the Prometheus was transmitting in hopes that the “Engineers” would receive it & go, ‘Hey, those lifeforms we created thousands of years ago? This is how they turned out.” It’s meant to show them we’re not hostile. In fact, we do this on Earth now. We transmit music, such as Mozart, old TV shows & different forms of art out into space in hopes that if some alien race does happen to pass by, they can pick this up & see we are a civilized race & blah blah blah. This movie is being picked apart because it’s not liked, but this is going way overboard. Like it or hate it, it’s just a movie.

  152. Mickey Bitskosays:

    Perhaps I missed it on your list, but here’s another: How does Dr. Holloway arrive at the age of the cave painting within a minute or two of discovering it?

  153. champjesays:

    maybe these comments reflect the respect in which the original Alien is held. Conceptually rigorous, tautly engrossing, and visually groundbreaking, it was a very hard act to follow (or precede). We were probably all hoping for something that would equal, or exceed Alien, but realistically that might be a bit much to ask for. After all, it is one of the finest sci-fi offerings ever.

  154. confusedsays:

    17. Odd syntax: “There seems to be a planet,” says Dr. Holloway, “but there is a moon capable of sustaining life.” Why can the crew’s interstellar scanners pick up minute details like a life-bearing moon with absolute certainty, but only ‘seem’ to show an entire planet?

    If the moon is capable of sustaining life, why then do they need breathing apparatus?

  155. Stan Goodvibessays:

    Why did the engineers leave a map in the drawings to their military installation instead of to their home planet? The Alien ship crashes back to the planet, rolls several times and then tips over yet Davids head remains roughly in the same place it was the whole time. What was he holding on with? His tongue?

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